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Mind you, those “brainwashers” can even be in your family or in your friend’s circle. Whenever you are getting influenced by somebody else’s ideas without examining them critically, you are opening yourself to “hypnotism” or “brainwashing.” Has anybody ever tried to convince you about the wonders of street drugs? Or, about the wonderful intoxication of uninhibited and irresponsible sex?

You have to hold on to your self-determinism if you do not want to succumb to the pitfalls that life surrounds us with.

Chuckle
- Friday, June 29, 2001 at 07:40:43 (EDT)

I think that, under the proper circumstances, pretty much any of us can succumb to brainwashing to some degree. It's easy to say "if they want to be in a crazy cult, it's their right", but imagine if the only support network you have ever come to count on happens to be Scientology? Or neo-nazis, or whatever. Understanding and respect for the victims, past and present, is the only way to undermine the control Scientology has over them. Anyway, that's my two cents.
Marcy
- Friday, June 29, 2001 at 03:55:53 (EDT)

Hasten to do good;
restrain your mind from evil.
He who is slow in doing good,
his mind delights in evil.

Dhammapada 116

Buddha
- Wednesday, June 27, 2001 at 18:12:36 (EDT)

Yes, this can be scary if you do not hold on to your own determinism. I have met all kind of people in Scientology. Those who are well versed in Scientology are relatively sane, but many who are just at the periphery can be strange.

Overall, I have had a positive experience in Scientology. It helped me get out of a terminal condition that I had. My advice to you would be to first examine Scientology by reading the books, DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH and THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT. The basics of Scientology are an extension of Buddhism.

Chuckle
- Wednesday, June 27, 2001 at 14:32:06 (EDT)

my boyfriend of 1 month has recently told me about his involvement in scientology. i do not feel threatened by his but i feel threatened by his choice to be involved with something so huge. i wanted to be able to somehow understand it a little more and therefore understand him a little more- and maybe understand why he began. he was asked when overseas to complete a personality test and it went on from there. he has got his mother into it and she is currently overseas compleateing somehting to do with it. i need to know if there is anything pro-active i can do to help him through this and make him understand that he is being pushed not guided. he's a great person all his friends including my cousin say so but it is really sad and frustrating that he feels he needs something like this. can you suggest anything? i am going to cape town to see him where he is currently going through an audit- scary stuff!! thanks- helpless in melb
jane <janehf@hotmail.com>
- Tuesday, June 26, 2001 at 22:35:29 (EDT)

There you Are like a swan in the sun, and then you are the sunlight. by Poet Author Scott G Betton
scott <Scott@poetland.com>
- Monday, June 25, 2001 at 08:48:45 (EDT)

Let no one deceive another
or despise anyone anywhere,
or through anger or irritation
wish for another to suffer.

Khuddakapatha 9

Buddha
- Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 16:50:13 (EDT)

LRH, fraud, not God
Scam, flim-flam
foolish eyes, see truths of lies
and think themselves the wise.
xenu
- Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 15:24:43 (EDT)

Should a seeker not find
a companion who is better or equal,
let him resolutely pursue a solitary course;
there is no fellowship with the fool.

Dhammapada 61

Buddha
- Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 15:10:39 (EDT)

Source is the 8th dynamic. OT8 Your welcome, and I'll take your check for $350,000 now. Isn't Godness great?
?
- Saturday, June 23, 2001 at 14:33:47 (EDT)

Even when obstacles crowd in,
the path to Nibbana can be won
by those who establish mindfulness
and bring to perfection equipoise.

Samyutta Nikaya I, 48

Buddha
- Friday, June 22, 2001 at 19:18:53 (EDT)

Scientology is a con for the week minded. The exploitation of the the mentally futile, by the morally corrupt.
.
- Friday, June 22, 2001 at 12:23:49 (EDT)

I'm betting that Buddhism doesn't have its own prison camps, police force, spy agency, and swarm of attorney and private investigators to punish critics with. Scientology does have a history of human rights abuses against its ex-members and critics. Making people work like slaves at Gold Base so Tom Cruise can be comfortable is not my idea of a path to freedom, but slavery. Scientology is just a bunch of thugs, pretentending to be a religion, so they can be tax exempt. The before and after photos of Lisa McPherson after Scientologys tech went to town on her are a reason to avoid Scientology at all cost.
Chuckle
- Friday, June 22, 2001 at 11:44:15 (EDT)

Through conviction one crosses over the flood.
Through heedfulness, the sea.
Through persistence one overcomes suffering & stress.
Through discernment a person is purified.

Sutta Nipata I, 10

Buddha
- Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 22:29:54 (EDT)

Scientology has a precedence.
Its fundamental principles are no different
Than those of Buddhism.
Buddhism works
And so does Scientology tech.
I know it
Because I have experienced it.

Chuckle
- Wednesday, June 20, 2001 at 17:55:31 (EDT)

Source was a con artist but he's dead now. Now for some light humor with the horrible musical, "L. Ron Hubbard and the Amazing Technicolor Straightjacket." LRH(singing bass): I've got body thetans... you've got body thetans...we've got body thetans...they are our reactive mind! I can't see them...I can't hear them...I can't feel them...But I know they're there. A ha ha, ho ho ho I will fool you, I will rule you. I am not a bad man...I am not a madman...I am not a sad man. I'm mocking it up, I mocking it up. Thats ol Hubbard, as I call him the 'bbard.
Chuckle
- Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 11:55:34 (EDT)

I have been successfully tricked into thinking that "the tech" saved my life, when it was in fact my own will to survive that saved me. Scientology always tries to take credit for everything good that I do, while anything bad that happens to me is my own faulty. Scientology is too cowardly to ever dare to admit its failures, faults, and weaknesses -- and there are many. After all, every Scientology book is required to have a disclaimer that the E-meter "does nothing." This came after the Supreme Court agreed that auditing is not a medical procedure, the E-meter is not a medical device, and in fact it does NOTHING.
Chuckle
- Tuesday, June 19, 2001 at 07:32:07 (EDT)

Fools think that it is staring blankly at someone,
The wise know that it is simply observing.
Fools think that it is the electricity that cures,
The wise know that it simply measures the state of mind.
Fools cannot associate the effect to its cause.
The wise know from experience and look at unbiased statistics.
I am alive today because of the Scientology Tech!
Do I need to be convinced otherwise?

Chuckle
- Monday, June 18, 2001 at 20:56:58 (EDT)

Wow! I didn't know staring blankly at someone, and running small doses of electricy through your body can cure EVERYTHING. When will the real doctors catch on to this miracle? Hows Lisa McPherson doing? Has her condition improved since she was last...m urdered by the Tech.
Chuckle
- Monday, June 18, 2001 at 12:29:43 (EDT)

The book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health contains breakthroughs of tremendous magnitude. Thousands of people have benefited from this science. Personally, Dianetic auditing saved my life from a condition for which doctors at t he Mass General Hospital (in 1969) had given me only two more years to live.

Chuckle
- Friday, June 15, 2001 at 19:37:03 (EDT)

Just reading Dianetics should convince any sane person that L.Ron Hubbard was an insane charlatan, who made it up as he went along.
Chuckle
- Friday, June 15, 2001 at 12:00:24 (EDT)

Such professors you can find dime a dozen. They con't profess much sense.

Chuckle
- Wednesday, June 13, 2001 at 06:55:52 (EDT)

David Touretzky, a professor at Carnegie-Mellon University, did extensive research into Study Tech, and he backed up the research with pointers to LRH's own writing. See it here at: http://www.lisatrust.net/literaticontest/contest2000/00touretzky.html
Still More
- Tuesday, June 12, 2001 at 04:45:37 (EDT)

Anything connected with Applied Scholastics is a Scieno front company. And anything related to $cientology is brain death. There are dozens of front companies of the cult of Scientology, for tax evasion purposes.
Chuckle
- Monday, June 11, 2001 at 14:31:59 (EDT)

You can find a first-hand testimony of Chuckle's lie, and the link between Applied Scholastics and Scientology, here at: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/mystory/applied.html
One who's been there
- Sunday, June 10, 2001 at 20:54:40 (EDT)

According to my understanding Applied Scholastics is a separate organization licensed to use the Study Technology of L. Ron Hubbard. It is a non-religious organization. As far as the Study Technology itself is concerned, I have found it to be very effective.
Chuckle
- Sunday, June 10, 2001 at 09:21:43 (EDT)

I have unwittingly found my self doing a course in Applied Scholastics Training College and they swear black & blue they are not affiliated with Scientology will anyone in Australia who knows more please write and give me some more information. Thankyou
Amber <amberthree@hotmail.com>
- Saturday, June 09, 2001 at 21:44:21 (EDT)

I was a Sea Org Member in California in the 70s-80s after which I made my escape from the total insanity. When I first arrived and saw ASHO there were at least 500 students day and night in the course rooms, it was very busy! Then when the managmant de cided that the price of "total freedom" needs to increase with inflation I saw immediate and all the Orgs moved to the old Cedars of Lebanon Hosp and its 7 building complex I would look at ASHO's course rooms and I couldn't count 10 or 15 students present at night and maybe 4 or 5 in the day. Yet the staff were given a line of bull at the big "pep rally" staff meetings that THe STATS are going UP! Were clearing the PLanet! THis was a lie total lies, I thought. I was deeply distressed at the 10% increase p er month they were charging people. I thought if I ever get out of here alive I would never afford such insanely high prices. Who or What was running this operation?! The Commanding Officer of ASHO, Rene Norton, who supposedly was OT3 at the time was loon ier than they come. She walked in on a group of 20 staff members eating their lunch one day and addressed my husband literally like a screaming maniac! Yelling at him at the top of her lungs. I took one look at that and said to myself, "man, she is insane i f this is what is running one of the major Scientology orgs on the west coast we're in deep trouble." I had a run-in with a high ranking executive one day. He kept taking my job supplies, so I went in to the room he was in and took the item from him. He immediately grabbed it and tried to wrestle it from my hands. He was a foot shorter than I and I looked into his eyes and said "Sir this is mine I'm trying to do my job!" He looked at me and said as if he thought he was God, "Who do you think you are talk ing to, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING TOO!" So I finally wrestled the item out of his hands so I could get my work done. I thought again this place is in serious trouble if this is what we have running this place! No too many months after that I finall y " escaped" and left Scientology for good!!! And you should too!
gem
- Tuesday, June 05, 2001 at 16:39:31 (EDT)

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Claude Revelation <videos@holy-secrets.com>
- Tuesday, June 05, 2001 at 00:12:16 (EDT)

The fake Chuckle hates me!
The fake Chuckle hates Scientology!
The fake Chuckle hates himself.:0)

Chuckle
- Sunday, June 03, 2001 at 07:19:53 (EDT)

I have determined that Scientology is an expensive fraud. Anyone spending money on it is stupid and they get what they deserve, and deserve what they pay for. Any of my future messages that support Scientology are done sarcastically. So get out your ch eck bokks book and go NUTS.
Chuckle (the real one)
- Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 12:17:57 (EDT)

Lurker, you were quite late in responding. This site is becoming less popular.

Chuckle
- Saturday, June 02, 2001 at 06:35:50 (EDT)

Scientology *is* crashing right now. Compared to a decade ago, when few people had heard of Xenu and no one knew about the connections between CCHR, Narconon, and Scientology...now *everyone* knows the truth, and the orgs are being deserted.
lurker
- Friday, June 01, 2001 at 08:26:05 (EDT)

By the way, I came across Scientology in 1969 too, when I first arrived in this country. I agree Scientology was a lot more fun then.

Chuckle
- Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 20:32:32 (EDT)

From what I have observed about Scientology as an organization, it has a lot of good things to offer. The only problem is with a paucity of trained personnel in Scientology. In spite of this weakness, if the present state of Scientology is compared with the state of Scientology just a decade ago, it is certainly making itself known in a big way. Maybe a lot of it is just promotion, but that promotion has to be sustained by some good results, or else Scientology would be crashing right now. That doesn't appear to be the case.
Chuckle
- Wednesday, May 30, 2001 at 18:05:05 (EDT)

Scientology is shrinking...let's get that one straight right away. When I got into Scientology in 1969, I walked up to ASHO and there were what seemed like a zillion people all walking about. It was so alive and filled with people all training to become auditors. Ok, one might say it was the Hayday of Scientology....but it was fuN! This was not only at ASHO. Someone took me over to LA ORG, at it was overflowing with people. They were in a giant white house, and it as filled, They also used a back house for the Academy, which was also filled to the top. I used to go to LA ORG every Friday night, just to watch Seaton Thomas do his lecture, and "handle objections" and sign people up. IT WAS AMAZING! Almost everyone either signed up that night, or at the very least, bought a book or books. A few blocks away just opening up was a place called Celebrety Center. This was a place where artists could go to learn Scientology and get support. OH! It was amazing in those old days. Now CC has the "in" crowd, etc. It is very typical of what you would expect for people promoting big shots. But back then, the artists were all new, and great, and fun. They didn't care who you were...if you were there, you were cool. Fun and joy were synomous with Scientology for me. We were all working on getting free (we thought) and there was just an air of hope all around. The people were all great, and very much into helping. Yes, there was the GO doing its dirty tricks, but they were VERY much in the background, and secret. The public never saw that stuff. Most of the staff didn't. Now...they are all over, they are posted outside the orgs with cameras. Security is at every org, and not in a good way. Sure, there was the staff member who flipped out and would be heard screaming his lungs out at someone. People would always cringe at that, but we all felt they were the minority. Back to the fun.... The tech was evolving, as always. Hubbard was mysteriously in the air. Where was he? NO ONE knew. Top secret, "for his benefit"> Back then the conspiracy theories were exciting. Really? The AMA is after Hubbard? WHY? "WEll, see Dianetics is only the cost of the book. Someone can buy it, go Clear, get rid of ALL of their somatics, and that would put out the AMA". Ooooohhhhhhhh. I seeeeeeeeeeee. Now you may laugh now, or hold your head is shock. Did we believe that? Most definitely~! Was anyone else around as superior as this group "the Sea Org"? Nope~ they were the tops. And the proof was in all the happy people smiling, bustling about, helping each other. Of course in the 80's there was the MASS exodus...but all still there worked hard to make that "OK". It was a very hard time. Where was>>>>>???? Along with this picture is LOTS more detail that is very interesting, but since I know OSA is just trying to find things to use against me, I will leave it out for now. But it is VERY interesting info. Add any you like,,,,I know many of you have great details. Hubbard dies, and enters DM. BOOM! Fun? Fuck that. Get to work. Tear down the OT 7 fun map of where all the OT 7's are. It's unprofessional. Get rid of the nightly show everyone loved so much. QUIT SMILING YOU IDIOTS or it's more sec checking. This is VERY serious business. It is??? Wasn't that what a lot of us loved about Scientology? Hubbard says, "Serious=Mass". Now DM is insisting people get serious. What used to be fun is no longer fun. The picture changed, and now the orgs are mostly empty. Amazing to watch the transformation from something so alive to something so dead. But OSA is determined to stop any and all people...and there aren't too many people promoting the alive part. Sooooo That was then, this in now. Want to come do a course? errrrr yeah right. I got your course right here...... Tory/Magoo~dancing in the light~ In for 30 years Out for 9 months SP 6 Free at last!
From ARS
- Monday, May 28, 2001 at 06:53:20 (EDT)

this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!11
perri
USA - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 01:25:23 (EDT)

Testing.
Testing
- Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 09:49:04 (EDT)

Looks like this site is dying! :0)
Chuckle
- Sunday, May 27, 2001 at 09:48:05 (EDT)

Satan es el creador de la existencia La existencia se divide en tiempo,espacio y energia Un enfoque cientifico es el unico que puede acernos superiores.
Satanfritos <satanfritos@eresmas.com>
- Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 16:55:20 (EDT)

scientology is weird, your web page is good
scientologist <oasdkljf@aldkfj.com>
- Monday, May 21, 2001 at 06:55:02 (EDT)

nice site and well done!
D E Zee
- Thursday, May 10, 2001 at 10:42:21 (EDT)

You can learn more than you ever wanted to know about Scientology here: http://www.xenu.net
Xenu's Child
- Tuesday, May 08, 2001 at 19:08:21 (EDT)

Hello! I am 17 and I am interested in scientology. I want to be an actress and I have noticed how many successful actors, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, are scientologists. My mom has told me a lot about it. She is really into it. She has told me about cau se and affect and auditing and some other things. I'm diffinetly interested in learning more about it. One suggestion though, the only thing that turns me off sometimes is seeing your info commersials late at night and your advertising on the streets of S an Francisco. Whenever I see people advertising late at night on T.V. or on the streets of S.F. I normally stay away, but I really beleive you guys have some positive beliefs and intentions so I keep pursing you. Thank you very much, I will keep learning more about scientology!!
Victoria Thompson <Njt4@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 03:43:53 (EDT)

I believe you should realy be more careful with how easily you bill yourself as "open minded". Some of this work shames the phrase.
Don Padrino
- Wednesday, May 02, 2001 at 00:46:25 (EDT)

I think Xenu is as real as Jesus Christ! Or, you may say Jesus Christ is as real as Xenu. I will leave it to you to interpret it. :0)
Checker
- Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 23:06:52 (EDT)

Scientology when asked about the claims given in these statements will always deny them. If you've ever watched A&E and their expose on Scientology, all the interviews with Scientology executives flat out deny all acusations against the church. I reco gnize and knew most of the people in this show and those speaking out against Scientology speak the truth. Many of the things they say I witnessed myself. Scientology leaders arn't stupid they won't come out and admit their guilt! I just want to say if y ou want to check out Scietology yourself do it with your eyes WIDE open so to speak, and be very careful. THe lower level courses are very effective and most of what they teach does work! But thats as far as it goes. Once you go higher say Clear and abov e where it gets to be more and more "confidential" where you can't share anything with anyone else except your case supervisor, nor can you share with anyone else the things you read and find out about on the "upper levels". THis is a red flag to me and of course they have their important reasons for doing this which may sound very convincing. But believe me the higher you go the weirder it gets and the MORE MONEY YOU PAY!!! THe upper levels sound just like a cheap science fiction book!!Very bizare. So bewa re! The lower levels are effective enough to snag you and get you in the door! You would think well that course was very good and if its this good at the lower levels then it must be real good at the upper levels especially if you have to pay so much. It' s far from the truth. I still have yet to see a sane OT 8 Class XII auditor in fact it seems the higher they go the weirder they get and the bigger egos they become no more spiritual or having no more spiritual abilities than the WOGs or nonscientologists they degrade.
guest
- Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 15:54:05 (EDT)

Sorry to inform you for free Dave (nice troll work) but the fictitious evil ruler named Xenu, is found in the equally fictitious cosmology in OT3. They don't like to talk about him. You can click on my link to Xenu.net and become enlightened or spend $ 125,000 and spend hundreds of hours staring in total silence. Enjoy your "life" as a Scientologists. Remember, long after you've gone bankrupt, and insane, and leave Scientology bitter and angry, the normal Wog world will always be here to help you, long after you have been declared SP. Have fun.
Chuckle (The Real Real One)
- Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 14:05:55 (EDT)

I am very sorry for you people that actually believe this stuff. I hope you find the real truth, and that truth is ONLY in our Lord Jesus Christ. If you do not find him in life, you will surely see him in death ! And if you do not find him in life, I pity you finding him in death!
giggles
- Tuesday, May 01, 2001 at 12:59:55 (EDT)

The most natural thing is to observe. On the Training Drills (TRs) in Scientology, one works on the skills for observing the environment. This environment includes not only the physical universe but also the body and the mind.

The critics of Scientology call it "staring." Nothing can be farther from the truth.
Chuckle
- Wednesday, April 25, 2001 at 21:55:34 (EDT)

I would like to have information about Scientology, in any aspects. I am doing a paper research about sects. Thank you, mape
mape <mape90@latinmail.com>
- Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 14:29:27 (EDT)

Thank you for the notice about the links to the affidavits on the "Legal System" page. The links have been updated.
Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>
- Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 06:26:35 (EDT)

I don't have any pets, but I'll watch my back. I think I will ask COS directly about the claims I've read so far, and see how they respond. If I feel any slimy tentacles on my head or see any brain-sucking machines, I'll make a break for it, Scooby Doo . As for the child-molesting flyer distribution, hopefully they need an artist because I could sure use the work! This would make an excellent movie. You could get Sandra Bullock and Mel Gibson to star. It would've been great if Mel Torme could've been in it as L.Ron Hubbard, then it could be a musical/horror/action thriller! Pass the popcorn. Seriously, though - I haven't read anything yet in my research regarding xenu or the "Incidents" you speak of. What is all that? My guess is that it's only Secret S quirrel OT8 level-stuff, right? They get all the cool toys. Oh well, that's what I get for being locked in that Roswell hangar for so long. Completely out of the loop. Well, Ladies and Gentleman, I think I'm done with this site now. I've heard all I want to about the Scientologists from Outer Space, and the Clearwater Connection starring Gene Pac-Man. I'm off to find some actual facts somewhere else. Good luck to you all. May the Force be with you. Always.
David <cre8in@pacbell.net>
- Monday, April 23, 2001 at 21:34:41 (EDT)

You will have to do your own research. I did. Or you could just throw caution to the wind and pony up the $375,000 you'll need to get to OT8, to learn that you have been scammed, and are no better off, and have no special powers, and that there is no s uch thing as Xenu, OT Powers, Theta, Body Thetans, Clears, Marcabians, Teegeeack, Incident I 0r II, If you like staring a lot and wasting a lot of your time and money, and actually believe you can become like a god for a price then go for it. So far no S cientologist has ever demonstrated any "magical" super powers. I also don't have any actual proof that Heroin is bad, and I can't cite any court cases that demonstrate it, maybe you can try that too, and let us know how it turns out. Just be careful you don't get caught using your first amendment rights and dare speak out against the human rights abuses that are endemic in Scientology. Scientology has it's own police agency, called the OSA, and they will harrass you, and get you fir ed from your job, and leaflet your neighborhood with flyers alleging that you are a child molester and/or a drug dealer. And they will kill you pets, and stage car accidents against you, and they will send you death threats, and also harrass you neighbors , friends, co-workers, and family. Plus if they get a picture of you they will post it on a web site, and call you a religious bigot! So be careful and enjoy your life as a Scientologist, and don't dare try to leave or else! And don't ever ask for proof about Scientology's claims that it can cure everything. And don't ever question anything they tell you. And don't ever demand to see proof of the claims Scientology makes of L. Ron Hubbard, or his credentials (or lack of).
Chuckle (The Real One)
- Monday, April 23, 2001 at 15:51:18 (EDT)

ni e fan helt sjuka i huve!!!
David <tjingtjong@hotmail.com>
- Monday, April 23, 2001 at 03:40:21 (EDT)

For example, i wanted to read these affidavits on your website. Only one is available right now. The others are all "unavailable on this server." How can I read them? Affidavit of Andre Tabayoyon - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affidavit of Mary Tabayoyon - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affidavit of Robert Vaughn Young - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Second Affidavit of Robert Vaughn Young - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affidavit of David Mayo - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affidavit of Vicki Aznaran - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Second Affidavit of Vicki Aznaran - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affdavit of Stacy Young - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Second Affidavit of Stacy Young - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Declaration of Gerald Scarff - "The file you have selected was not found on the server." Affidavit of Jesse Prince - This one is available! Please tell me where I can find these affidavits. Thank you.
David <cre8in@pacbell.net>
- Monday, April 23, 2001 at 00:41:02 (EDT)

Anonymous, Thank you for pointing me to xenu.net and Lisa Trust again. Like I said very plainly, I don't mean to infer that this "data doesn't exist." I was very clear in saying that, and you've twisted my words and taken my ideas in a different direction. I'm tryin g to be objective. The data may very well exist, and it may be "stockpiled" on these sites. I just can't find it. If you would be kind enough to point me in the direction of an actual police report, court action, or legal document that details names of th ose who have been prosecuted, I would be interested in seeing them. Pretend that I actually do have my head in the sand. If that's the case, then please take me by the hand and give me URL's that I can click on and read an actual legal document (not an e- mail, news story, or testimony). When I visit those sites, I can't get past the third party retoric. It's confusing. I'm an idiot, and need to be treated so. I really want to see this stuff, so I'm asking you to help me. Can you? Maybe you can just give m e t he name of the court(s) these cases were tried in, and I'll call them and get the info myself. I'm not opposed to doing my own research, I just though you may have taken that route already and could make it easier. So, since you don't want to make it easy for me, just tell me the county I should look in and I'll check it out myself. If I find anything, I promise to everyone on this guestbook that I'll post my findings ASAP, and point everyone in the right direction so they can see the proof themselves. I' ll even go a step further: If you give me a list of the cases and the counties they were treid in, I'll personally mail a hard copy of whatever evidence I find citing COS or their members in any COS-related crime to anyone who asks me for it - FREE of cha rge (for God's sake, give me a P.O. Box if you think I'm trying to "infiltrate" your home). Try me. So the COS has high-priced lawyers. So do the tobacco companies and the Big 3 auto makers. People still win cases against them, in the face of union threats and violence. Please don't excuse your lack of action with wealth-based opposition. If it's really important enough to complain about, then (like I said) DO SOMETHING. Please. The ball is in your court. The criminal justice system in this country is based on innocent until proven guilty, so prove it to me. I don't say this out of disrespect to you, An onymous, and I'll repeat what I said before: I'm trying to find the truth. I'm not on any "side." I merely want to know what's going on for real. Help me out.
David <cre8in@pacbell.net>
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 23:43:34 (EDT)

Let no one deceive another
or despise anyone anywhere,
or through anger or irritation
wish for another to suffer.

Khuddakapatha 9

Buddha
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 22:25:34 (EDT)

Yes. but if what Scientology has to offer draws your interest and you go a little further into it's doors, they won't let you go! Especially staff members!
annonamous
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 17:40:18 (EDT)

Anyone who violates the law must be prosecuted. This applies to Scientology as well as to the critics of Scientology.
Chuckle (the real one)
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 17:34:05 (EDT)

What David says is right on!
Nobody is forcing anybody to do Scientology.
Chuckle (the real one)
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 17:28:58 (EDT)

Head in the sand, David? There are literally hundreds of cases maybe thousands against Scientology and Scientologists. Many Scientologists have been indicted and sentenced to prison. While you are shilling for the cult, ask why Heber Jentscze wont go to Spain. The facts of human rights abuses, fraud, and tax evasion are well documented in many countries. But if your head is stuck in the sand (or anywhere else) you wont find anything. Try xenu.net or lisatrust.net or any critical site they stockpile the data you say doesn't exist. your welcome.
Zaphod
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 15:44:24 (EDT)

Most people who have been involved in the COS and have observed or been the victim of abuse are so fearful of the CoS because they know of the unlimited finacial resources they have to distroy you in court! The "church" is VERY intimidating. Most would n't dare to take them on and those who do regret it deeply because the COS has the most powerful lawyers on the planet and unlimited finacial resources to make nothing of your claim no matter how true it is.
annonamous
- Sunday, April 22, 2001 at 10:42:15 (EDT)

It seems that no one is being truly objective about Scientology. I've heard a lot of claims of violent abuse, coercion, intimidation, and threats. People say they are scared to speak publicly. I don't know the facts of these claims. I haven't seen any hard evidence to these claims. I've looked up several news articles regarding Scientology, and the "bad" ones report only alleged crimes or illegal activities. I haven't seen an instance where som eone from the church has been convicted of anything yet. As I believe in complete objectivity, and I have no "inside" knowledge of any of this, I can only suggest the following to anyone reading this or other websites promoting or discouraging the practice of scientology: 1. Read as much as you can about COS, Dianetics, and Scientology, from *their* sources. If you find that it's silly or stupid, stop reading and move on in your life. Simple. 2. If you find yourself agreeing with the texts, visit a church or mission, and find out more. Talk to people. If no one can give you straight answers, or you feel uncomfortable, then leave. Forget it. Move on with your life. 3. If you want to practice Scientology, take courses, learn more, then do it. If you can't afford it, don't start. All churches expect donations to support themselves and their religion. If you don't want to pay for the courses, then don't go. Go to a "fr ee" church or religion. Nobody makes you get out your wallet in the first place. If you find that the practice of charging for courses or materials is wrong, then do something about it. Write your congressman. Call the Better Business Bureau. Talk to the news. Get it out in public. Don't just resent it privately. CHANGE IT. If you can't change it, move on. Do something positive with your life that doesn't include COS. Be glad you figured it out before you lost money! 4. If you are deep in the church, and see abuse, or are abused, REPORT IT TO THE AUTHORITES. Tell the police you're being threatened! If you do it in an intelligent manner that's not antagonistic, there's a good chance you will be believed. If not, get a lwayer. There are probably a good deal of lawyers that would love to try a case against COS. Get support; rally together. It seems that there are enough of you to make a point! Make some positive change. If you're scared, that's all the more reason to fig ht it. If you've been forced to stay in a room without water or food, or have endured abuse of any kind, then discontinue the practice. Leave. If you're scared, then nod, smile, and go along with what they say. Then leave. Most important, FILE CHARGES. It 's the same story of the battered wife who won't press charges against her husband. She loses her credibility. Don't lose your credibility. 5. Former Members: Stop talking to each other and whining about your abuses. It's fine to have anti-COS websites, but do you really think it's getting your point across? Is it effective? I say it's not, because you're targeting people who already agree wi th you. You're preaching to the choir. Find a way to get to the people *before* they join the church. Stop being lazy. If it's worth fighting for, then FIGHT HARD. Don't whine and tell paranoid stories that don't have any hard evidence to them. If you hav e evidence, don't put it on a website where a handful of people will see it, bring it to the media. Get a lawyer. Lawyers love good, hard evidence. If you don't have evidence, then you are just whining and wasting everyone's time. There seem to be enough of you that *someone* could get something! Don't you think the church is fighting just as hard to maintain their image? Of course they are. They have rights, just as you do. It is a legal, organized religion, like it or not. 6. The people with the websites against Scientology don't seem to have an aim or goal. You want to slander the religion, but you don't offer any provable facts. Is a reproduced e-mail a fact? No. Is an article about a joke made on Ellen a fact? No. Is a b ad review of Battlefield Earth a fact? Nope. Is a news report about an alleged death caused by members of COS fact? Again, no. I'm not saying that your claims are untrue. I'm saying I don't know, because I haven't seen any facts, and I haven't seen any action from the anti-COS people that is effective towards prosecuting individuals of the church. I'm not clear as to what your mo tives are, then. I've explored the Scientology website(s) in depth, and every question I had for them was answered to my satisfaction. Is it possible that they're lying? Sure. Again, I don't have any way of knowing this, unless I either: A. Experience it for myself B. See a legal prosecution of any scientology member involved in abuse, neglect, or extortion. If I do experience it for myself, you can bet I'll follow steps 1,2,& 3 above. I certainly don't mean any disrespect to the people who created this website or others like it. In fact, I applaud them for speaking out against something they strongly believe is dangerous. However, I don't think they are being objective and they need to organize themselves to effect real change. I believe in freedom of religion and freedom of speech. That's why I don't lash out at the Southern Baptist who stands on the corner and screams that all women are whores. He scares my son, and he frankly scares me. Will I do anything about it? Yes. I won't walk that way on Sunday afternoon anymore. I could start a website and complain about how his church says I'm going to hell, but somehow I don't think he would care.:) Al I ask is that anyone thinking about joining any group research it first. If you can't get your questions answered, or you think it's bunk, then it's your right to think that and go on your way. The interesting thing is that in Dianetics and Scientology , L. Ron Hubbard wrote everything down. You can read it all, it's available. It's your right to ask the church anything you want. If you don't like the answers, then move on. That's your right, too. Good luck to everyone in your search for the truth.
David <cre8in@pacbell.net>
- Saturday, April 21, 2001 at 21:25:34 (EDT)

The fool thinks he has won a battle
when he bullies with harsh speech,
but knowing how to be forbearing
alone makes one victorious.

Samyutta Nikaya I, 163

Buddha
- Wednesday, April 18, 2001 at 06:25:47 (EDT)

Psychiatry certainly doesn't have all the answers but Scientology is just as far from it. After what Scientology did to me, at least psychiatry kept me from killing myself until I was in a place where I could let the power of Jesus Christ set me free! He was with me through all the pain and suffering Scientology put me through and he kept me safe. I wrote in this guest book in March to tell of what Scientology did to me and how Jesus set me free from the bondage Scientology left me in. And Jesus di d it in one instant and it didn't cost me a penny. Scientology isn't that good. And this is my experience with the Purification RD. In 1979, all staff were required to do it weither they wanted to or not. We had to sign a waiver freeing the church from liability for any possible harm that may come from doing it since there was no research to prove it was not harmful. We were guinea pigs! Let me back up a year. The part of the Sea Org I was in had a flap, a bad PR situation that the public could not kno w about and we had them often! A staff member had had hepatitis A for two months before he found out he was sick. He was tired all the time and didn't think anything of it since what staff member isn't tired since they work the crap out of you. At leas t 50 staff and their kids got it and were isolated in a wing of the LA complex for 5-6 weeks until their urine tested negative. I was one of those who got it. At the time I was getting 2-4hrs sleep. So it was a welcome vacation to be sick. But as soon as was let out it was back to hard physical labor. Any doctor will tell these people to get lots of rest to let the liver fully recover. That was not permitted. So a year later I was made to do this purif. I should have done it for a week and been do ne since I had never used any drugs except asprin and novacaine, right!? Scientology makes you do a thing until you "are happy and life is wonderful and you just can't wait to go and tell someone else about how great life is." Yah right! They make me d o i t for 2 months!!! Here I am getting a few hours sleep a night with hard physical labor when I am awake, have a weak liver and now I have to run 30mins and sit in a sauna 2hrs on "my free time!" How happy would you be. So they didn't let me finish in 1 week. Every time the niacin doesn't make you flush they increase it 100mg until you finish the program or are taking 3500mg. Of course they don't tell you this is highly toxic and any doctor will tell you that after one month you will get liver damage. After one month, I "cracked." I was so overwhelmed. I had to serve 200 executives their meals and we ran out of dessert one evening and everyone was very upset. Public people don't understand how deprived Sea Org members are that they fall apart when they don't get dessert. I felt so bad, I started screaming and screaming and then ran out of the building and ran for almost an hour just to get away from the shame, pain and frustration and lack of joy in my life. I wanted to die but there was no escap e. They sent me to the doctor and I was told to get some sleep. DAH! They let me have 8hrs sleep for another month but by then the damage was done. then it was back to 2hrs sleep a night. I don't know why they let me stop at two months. I never was hap py! By 1981 I had a nervous breakdown and again in '82 and was told to leave to get my life togeter. It wasn't for another 4 years before I found out my liver was damaged and enlarged, I was in pain and could digest food. It was another 8yrs after gett ing the right treatment that I recoverd. Healing for the mental side is another story and took much longer. But the power of Jesus Christ was the key! I praise God for the day when the COS will the revalation of the power and love of Jesus if they are so lucky before it's too late!
Finally Free
- Monday, April 16, 2001 at 13:50:29 (EDT)

Arise! Do not be heedless!
Lead a righteous life.
The righteous live happily
both in this world and the next.

Dhammapada 168

Buddha
- Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 15:17:30 (EDT)

I just want to understand other religions somewhat to see why people believe as they do. The differences between denominations. Thanks
b.a.r. <barbara1316>
- Saturday, April 14, 2001 at 13:46:27 (EDT)

Trabajé en Cienciología en México en 1996, fue la experiencia menos grata de mi vida. LO QUE VI Y VIVI: Te piden que des mucho trabajo como miembro del staff. De 9 a.m. a 10 p.m. Los niños tambien trabajan de sol a sol. Te pagan sueldos por debajo del mínimo con el pretexto de que son una comunidad en colectivo. Quieren aclarar el planeta y no existe obstaculo para ello. Para alcanzar el objetivo no van a permitir que nadie pertenezca a algo diferente a Cienciología. Cuando eso pasa lo llaman squirrell, una especie de omisión contra Cienciología. Están contra la Psicología, sobre todo contra los psiquiatras. La razón que aducen es que son los psiquiatras quienes han conducido a la guerra en la humanidad y que utilizan electroshocks en sus pacientes. Cobran los cursos a precios exhorbitantes y para pagarlos alguna gente fascinada por este estudio ha tenido que vender sus propiedades.Sobre todo cuando les ofrecen un crucero en un barco llamado Freewinds. Toleran la pertenencia a otras religiones en determinado grado pero condenan a quienes practican la meditación y practicas de mejoramiento espiritual como la New Age. Tienen una sólida filosofía cuya tendenmcia es aislarse poco a poco de la familia y parientes para dedicar horas enteras a Cienciología. Lo apoyan algunos artistas, ellos no quieren ver que mucha gente está siendo explotada para brindar un servicio de Cienciología. Utilizan técnicas de ventas de presión intimidatorias. A quienes han cometido omisiones en apariencia contra Cienciología el resto del personal de una organización o misión, no les dirigen la palabra ni siquiera el saludo, lo que llamamos en Mexico la ley del hielo. Cuando alguien comete una falta le aplican un manejo llamado manejo del MEST o de la materia que consiste en una terapia dura de limpieza o tarea pesada, aun cuando la persona se encuentre enferma. Cuando consideran a una persona peligrosa la someten a un interrogatorio con un aparato llamado e metro, el cual exactamente ayuda a liberar la carga que trae el cienciologo, mediante dos extensiones del aparato que son enlazadas hacia las manos del clien te o cienciologo con la idea de saber al final de cuentas si dice la verdad. Es decidamente un interrogatorio muy similar a un cuestionario policiaco, sin tortura fisica. Odian a los periodistas, porque dicen que enturbulan el ambiente. Bajo esa base clasifican con quien guardar o no una relación de convenciencia, es al final una especie de racismo. Creen en otras vidas y dicen que a lo mejor en una pasada fuiste perro, y si eres politico, segun ellos lo mas probable es que eras (aunque suene risible) chango o una cosa así. Lo lamentable de todo esto es que una filosofia que fue planteada inicialmente para ayudar a la humanidad ahora está estorbando y acosandola. No permitiendo que crezca, imponiendole un dogam técnico, intelectual. La filosofía de Dianética y Cienciología es temporal, uno no se puede quedar con ella, tiene que practicarla por su cuenta, fuera de un centro de Dianetica o Cienciología, porque bajo el prestexto de custodiar el conocimiento de la humanidad ellos se vuel ven controladores, y supuestos guardianes de la sabiduría. Harian una guerra para salvar al planeta, porque eso están demostrando: Su poco amor,poca fe y paciencia hacia la sufriente humanidad. Cienciologia es una tecnica de paso, la siguiente es irse a casa y elegir otro camino no más cuerdo, porque si alguna filosofia aparece como tal, son ellos. ES ALGO MAS COHERENTE Y LIBRE LO QUE LA HUMANIDAD PIDE..PERO EN EL PROCESO HAY QUE DEJAR SER Y SER . ah se me olvidaba, conoci a un hijo de cienciologo a quien casi vuelven loco en su afan de incorporarlo a su religión.cuidado, Tengan amor, mucho amor para decirle a un cienciologo: está muy bonito, en que te puedo ayudar hermano cienciologo? a que tengas fe y amor, yo no te lo puedo enseñar, entonces dejame crecer a mi a mi propio ritmo de amor.. GRACIAS, Alden Sinaloa, Mexico.
alden <alden3000@hotmail.com>
- Monday, April 09, 2001 at 17:33:36 (EDT)

Mr. Mouth, I consider the dangers of $cientology to be: 1) The lying it has to do to get members, 2) The large sums of money it extracts from it members for services, 3) The fact that its services can't cure anything, 4) The social control over the activities and wh ereabouts of its members, 5) The actual dangers of the Purification Rundown, which include toxic levels of niacin, calcium, and magnesium, and extended peroids of time running and in a sauna, and at last but not least 6) The children being raised by $cien tologists are coming into adulthood in a state I would consider mildly retarded due to a lack of a quality education. So, Mr Mouth please dont tell me what I can and can't say about Scientology. Thank you.
Chuckle
- Monday, April 02, 2001 at 11:01:50 (EDT)

Chuckle sez: "Some people point to the "harmful" aspects of Scientology. But if there are these alleged "harmful" aspects of Scientology, they would be considered as miniscule compared to the harmful aspects of Psychiatry." Chuckle, what do you consider to be the "harmful" aspects of Scientology? Since you are not allowed to say anything negative about Scientology (criticism is considered "attacking" Scientology and thus is a High Crime), I await your answer with interest.< /b>
Mr. Mouth
- Monday, April 02, 2001 at 06:01:17 (EDT)
now reading more entries i know it's a relgion.the one and only god is the Creator who made this earth from nothing and you and me from the dust of the earth.The reason why it is said "death were is thy sting" and "grave where is thy victory" is becaus e Jesus Chirst died on the cross for all of us young and old,bad and good, for we are all sinners, yet his beloved sheep that have gone a stray. please like many people in here have said studie ALL of the facts ,even if they don't make since,and make your own desicion.We are all free to make our own desicions for God did not want us to be mindless robots worshiping Him. God Bless you all,
Lily <Lily1703@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, April 01, 2001 at 19:28:24 (EDT)
what is this site about anyway?I thought it was something ta do with science.then that crack I AM CHAMPION was saying that it's a relgion.Please set me straight on this.
Lily
- Sunday, April 01, 2001 at 19:19:21 (EDT)
Luckily $cientology is not doing as well as they are telling their members, and is very downstat thanx to the internet. More people are being warned about their scam everyday. The recent defection of Tory Bezazian OT7 and also an OT8 has been a PR disa ster for the crime syndicate of $cientology. Anyone can read all the "secret scriptures" anytime, and there is nothing they can do about it, since there are no OT's or OT powers to stop us.hehehehehehehhe
Chuckle
- Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 20:12:16 (EST)
Nobody is try to stop you, my friend.

The truth is what it is. It is there in the open for everyone to view.

All you need to do is to set aside all your fears and prejudices, and simply LOOK. :)

Chuckle
- Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 18:58:30 (EST)
"Well, aren't they speaking against Scientology for alleged "harmful" effects?" That's exactly what we're doing, no matter how much you try to stop us. Thank you for conceding this point.
lurker
- Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 11:35:31 (EST)
Yes, please examine all the facts and make your own decision.

Where the business of handling the mind is concerned, you have Psychiatry, and you have Scientology. Examine the statistics of the results from the application of these two approaches.

What are percentages of people getting better through Psychiatry? I know of doctors who would not handle their own problems through psychiatry. Apart from the fear of getting worse through the application of Psychiatry, they know that having Psychiatric r ecords will prevent them from continuing in their profession in a credible fashion.

On the other hand the percentage of people getting better through Scientology approach is very high.

Some people point to the "harmful" aspects of Scientology. But if there are these alleged "harmful" aspects of Scientology, they would be considered as miniscule compared to the harmful aspects of Psychiatry. Interestingly enough when this is pointed out to the critics of Scientology, their only rebuttal is that this forum is about Scientology and not Psychiatry.

Well, aren't they speaking against Scientology for alleged "harmful" effects? Shouldn't they be concerned about the harmful effects elsewhere in the field of mind? Why are they so selective about Scientology, and so tolerant of Psychiatry?

That tells you a lot about how mental illness tries to perpetuate itself and speaks out against any real cure.

Chuckle
- Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 10:00:10 (EST)
Yet again it's the old chestnut: "Critics are criminals," "Scientology is always good," "If there's anything bad then it's always YOUR fault, not Scientology." Hubbard wrote this, and all you can do is bleat it out repeatedly like sheep. Yes, please examine all the facts and make your own decision. Scientology desperately does NOT want you to see all the facts about the constant, unending requests for money, the underpaid work, the loneliness, the depression that comes from being in Scie ntology. They desperately do NOT you to see the facts about the crimes of the upper management, the Sea Org, the OSA, and the RPF. And Scientology does NOT want the Internet to present the truth about Scientology to the world.
lurker
- Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 07:15:40 (EST)
Amen!
Chuckle
- Friday, March 30, 2001 at 23:20:15 (EST)
I feel very sorry for all those who have allowed themselves to be persuaded that Scientology is something to be feared and avoided. Examine Scientology for yourself. Look don't listen. Scientologists have the world by the tail. For us the Biblical prop hesy of "Death where is thy sting? Grave where is thy victory? has been fulfilled. We are winning in all facets of life. Healthwise, familywise and businesswise we are better off than those who worship the dispensers of drugs and spend thousands on decade nt and archaic scams like psychiatry and their sidekick psychologists. Most of the attacks on Scientology can be traced to these con artists. Why? -- because as Scientology expands --- they contract and eventually will lose their influence over those who fund them. Their desperate attempts to classify individualities as mental illness and prescrbe their patented poisons to the aged, the harrased executive and to lively children, is evidence of their impending demise. Look don't listen! Don't judge Sciento log y by the actions of individual Scientologists. Look at the results attained. Read the thousands of success stories available in every Dianetic and Scientology centre. Wishing you all well.
Martin Foster <msfoster@lantic.net>
- Friday, March 30, 2001 at 20:18:42 (EST)
God is not some entity external to you. God is the creative potential within you. Relying on God is to rely on your true self. The ego is not you. Ego is a mental construct that you are unwittingly identifying yourself with. Spirituality is pure creativity. The opposite of spiritual is to become mechanical.
Buddha
- Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 22:08:24 (EST)
Scientology says that it allows people of all faith and religions. But it says that anyone who believes in God or is a Christian is manifesting an implant. Implant is a Scientology term it is a method of brain washing in which a person is subjected t o pain like electricity and thoughts are then placed into a person's subconscience in order to control them and keeping them oppressed and far away from knowing the truth. This is what Scientology says Christianity and the beleif in God is. I praise God e veryday that, I'd rather be "maninifesting and implant" and feel so free in the Lord, than searching for and never finding my spiritual freedom in Scientology! I wouldn't trade what I have now in Jesus than anything the world has to give!
pga
- Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 12:37:36 (EST)
I have personnal experience in this "nazi labor camp" cult of a church. My mom took me and my other family members when I was 15. We sold every thing we owned and moved to Hollywood. I could not question my mother and soon learned you dare not question Scietology either. After one month of being there I felt this was a big mistake, but I wasn't allowed to have my own opinions and could not speak out. After 8 years of severe abuse working 17 -20 hours a day, I witnessed 5 people have nervous breakdown s to total psychotic collapse because of the abuse. These people were locked up for any where from 2 days to one month until they came to there senses or had to be kicked out because they were of no use anymore. My other sisters and family were also kick ed out, but my mother remains there to this day. After I left she renounced me as her daughter because I had spoken to her about the terrible things Scientology was doing. So it is the practice that a person needs to "disconnect"even from one's family and ha ve NO communication with them. But as I look back I see that God's hand was with me, because I came very close to killing myself he spared my life, and he gave me an open door to leave.(WHere does a teen age girl go in Hollywood without support?)(Sciento logists are also not allowed to own or watch television. THey justified this by saying to the staff when I was there that, the Rusians were placing sublimial messages in the tv programs and commercials so it wasn't safe to watch or you'll under go some so rt of mind control. Now who's paraniod here and using the mind control? They did this only on the staff in the SEA ORG not on the public people. But would you want to go to a church who's staff have no free will or say?) But even after leaving, my other sister and I thought the battle was finally over. Little did we know that we would continue for 15-20 years to battle with post traumatic stress, major depression and anxiety over our 7-8 year involvement in this place that poses as a "Church". By the aw eso me love, compassion and POWER of the LORD JESUS CHRIST we have been set FREE of our trauma from Scientology!!! AND IT WAS FREE OF CHARGE!!! (and yes, Scientology charges any where from $200.00-$1000.00 an hour for its counselling services, they justify th is by saying, "What price do you put on total FREEDOM?) God paid the price already for my and your TOTAL FREEDOM by sacrificing His only SON because He loves us so much. Only HE has the power to set one FREE in MIND, BODY, SOUL and SPIRIT!!! If you have a humbled heart and want a way out of WHAT EVER crisis or pain that is in your life just ask JESUS to help you and to reveal Himself to you and beleive HE can save you from it and give you ETENAL LIFE, and HE will! I strongly warn everyone I can to stay aw ay this ANTI-CHRIST, ANTI-GOD CULT!!!It is very dangerous and that is why I do not give my name!
annonamous
- Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 11:16:43 (EST)
I am a recovered ex-scientology staff member (Hallelujah!). My mom got me in it when I was 15 and spent the next 8 years of my life learning how to live in fear of doing something wrong and how not to think for myself. I was physically and psychologi cally abused in the a had 2-4hrs sleep a night because if my job didn't get done I would be punished with more work. There were not enough staff to help with all that there was to do. When sleep deprived, one is in an hypnotic state and tends to believ e whatever anyone tells you even your own paranoid thoughts. Needless to say I eventually had a nervous breakdown and they told me to leave (I was no longer useful to them since I could not PRODUCE!) and get my life together!? I thought that's what Scie ntology was supposed to do. That was 1982 and I suffered severe depression and often suicidal and in and out of hospitals for the next 18 years. In October 2000 I was set free by the power of GOD! God totally delivered and set me free in one instant! Sci entology couldn't do that. I praise God and give Him all the glory. My mom is still in the church and has not talked to me in 18 years. I pray God will set all families free from the grips of Scientology. Stay as far as you can from Scientology. Scin cerely, Finally Free.
Finally Free
- Tuesday, March 27, 2001 at 00:33:26 (EST)
We are fine. We are glad to know that we are on our way to destruction. You will be with us all the way.
DOGS
- Friday, March 23, 2001 at 21:55:49 (EST)
A friend sent me an article which linked to operation clambake which led me here. Boy, am I ever glad i read this article! It confirmed all my suspicions about Co$. Glad to now have facts with which to fight the good fight! Keep up the good work an d keeping everyone informed! $cientology is Evil!
Trudy
- Monday, March 19, 2001 at 22:53:39 (EST)
Yeah I'm Back! Only because the stillborn brainchild of L. Ron Hubbard wont go away quietly. Somebody has to warn the public about the Freewinds, Scientology's OT8 training boat and 450' asbestos hazard that David Miscavige uses as a private limo to sh uttle him from island to island in the Caribbean on gambling jaunts. There, take that.
Zaphod
- Friday, March 16, 2001 at 17:26:19 (EST)
How are you gentlemen. All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction.
CATS
- Thursday, March 15, 2001 at 00:22:07 (EST)
I am relieved to find your site, and that I can recommend it to others... I have read the "fair game" writings of Hubbard, I have seen the yellow banded amends people, I know of those on whom kidnapping was inteneded (no, I'm not paranoid) Now, at this time, I have come across front groups, who pretend , in my opinion, to ser ve the community, but in reality, are recruiting for members. One such group is H.E.L.P. (Hollywood Education and Literacy Project) If their only intention is to help, then wonderful, I applaud .. but I don't think so. They are recruiting for mentors at Los Angeles City College, and somehow, it is just too strong-armed to be legitmate. It feels like army recuitment. I am going to print some articles from the web and pass them out, so people at least can make informed decisions.
One of the Watchers
- Tuesday, March 13, 2001 at 19:26:05 (EST)
Ventura County killed my son. My mentally ill son died of hypothermia because he was released 24 miles from his camp site.
joe dupont <venturakilledrichard@yahoo.com>
- Saturday, March 10, 2001 at 12:53:34 (EST)
I think Dianetics and Scientology is a waste of time. I took the first course and read their main book. It is suggested that truth is subjective and it is not. Truth is not harnessed into my reality. All truth is objective and out of my control. It also implies that God is just manifested into "infinite" but it´d be kind of naive to think that I could control my environment, my sorroundings and reality just by thinking that I am the ultimate source of truth and blaming someone else for my proble ms.
Raul Garcia <raulgs2001@yahoo.com>
- Friday, March 09, 2001 at 14:31:19 (EST)
Hi, I am exploring into the world of Scientology - and need some information....Does this "church" charge high fees for services? Do they have to "accept you" or do they accept everyone. What are the beliefs on bi-sexuality? Thanks!
Curiuous <exploring_aimee@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, March 08, 2001 at 17:01:38 (EST)
A new lie: Scientolgy has lied to Tripod saying I had spamed them in order to get tripod to remove my page techvol1. I was just keeping records for myself on these pages some of which were documents writen by Bill Robertson under his copywrite and perm ission to pass on. Tripod and other providers are becoming sucker pawns to this kind of false reporting.
techvol1 <techvol1@lycos.com>
- Wednesday, March 07, 2001 at 13:52:29 (EST)
Scientology should be prosecuted under the RICO Act of 1989, and put out of business. They should not be funded by our government. They are a crime syndicate posing as a religion, and bilking people out of hundreds of thousands of dollars for phony sel f help courses. And practicing medicine without a license.
Zaphod < >
- Tuesday, March 06, 2001 at 14:39:53 (EST)
come by for a visit
class8crse sup <class8crse@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, March 01, 2001 at 21:37:17 (EST)
hi, my name is jansen. i'm now 18 years old. in response to the belief that subliminal messages have no effect on people, i would have to say i disagree. you see, i performed a small experiment regarding subliminal messages to satisfy my curiosity. i took a total of 200 people and put them through a small but what i think is a thorough test. if you interested, read on as i explain the experiment. i first found some wordless music that had sort of a rhythmic balance to it, nothing hard or soft just right in the middle with no climaxes or depressions just constant. this will be the main music which everyone will consciensly here. i then recorded a message of myself saying, "choose four, pick four" repeatedly for 2 minutes straight in constant rhythym while maintaining an unchanging tone. i also found a soothing tape of waves crashing on a shore (the kind you might listen to to fall asleep). Thes e are the three most important factors in the experiment. i mixed the waves crashing with the message "choose four, pick four" while keeping the waves slightly louder just enough to the message in between the waves coming in. the reason for this is to h ide the message and mask it. i then took the mixed tape and mixed it with the music keeping the mixed tape lower to hide the waves. now comes the experiment. keep in mind i have two tapes i will play to the participants. the first is just the music, t he second is the subliminal message i have created. now, i took 5 cups, numbered them, and placed a ball under four. before, letting each person pick which cup they thought the ball was under, i let the normal music play for 1 minute while making them concentrate on the cups. i did this with 200 people on 1 day. on the next day, i did the same thing, with the same 200 but using the subliminal message with the intent of people choosing 4. the results were startling. (cup:responses) first day- 1:23 2:57 3:46 4:38 5:36 second day- 1:18 2:34 3:27 4:94 5:27 almost 50% of the people chose 4. if you still say that subliminal messages aren't effective, you may be right, but isn't a shame businesses will actually pay millions of dollars for so called, "subliminal messages" to use with advertisements of their products? you may say that i'm lying. i am not. i did this as a science project. i don't care if you believe me. i have told you how to do the experiment, try it yourself.
jansen <raceylee@aol.com>
- Tuesday, February 27, 2001 at 02:05:23 (EST)
Just watched Phenomenon, starring John Travolta. Interesting how it brings in Scientology....
Greg
- Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 00:29:43 (EST)
The answers to your questions can best be found on the Scientology Compartive Theology page at: http://www.ezlink.com/~perry/Co$/Christian/index.htm
lurker
- Thursday, February 22, 2001 at 05:05:17 (EST)
Hello; Ijust clicked onto your website and have some questions I need to ask. If you could help me asap, that would be great: I'm doing a class in religious studies and need the following information: What do you think is the biggest difference between Scientology and Christianity? What do scientologist believe about Jesus if at all? What is the most important belief about Scientology Why is Scientology a better belief system to stick to ? what can if offer me? How can I obtain things such as grace and salvation in Scientology? My assignment is due Friday Feb 23/01 - Your help would be greatly appreciated before that time at my above email address. Thank you so much
Jay-Jay <ps139horse@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, February 21, 2001 at 14:24:19 (EST)
Regarding the person who sent me an encrypted email and asked for his reply not to be sent to that address: I do use an updated version of the software, and my key is 1024 bits.
Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>
- Monday, February 19, 2001 at 21:39:40 (EST)
Hello. hows it going poeple. well first of all i like to be a factual person, that what i base my life off, (usally). I happen to like sciontology, i was born into it and have found my self to be a very responsible person. Have found my self to be more confident and of higher level of understandings, in communication, reading, and people and of how things work.. yes i do disagree with somethings and mostly only one thing. most people who work in the sea org. the organization that is responsible for keeping all sciontology tech in line or true. (wich i have found no other religion does) does not have a good amount of contact with the other people that r around this planet. They are sciontologiest, hang around them and seem to be weird when u meet them. just like all those mormans in utah. the more you study sciontology the more unreasonable you become and thats ve ry good. Look up resonable, if you think thats bad. the poeple you push around and seem to take shit from everyone they are resonable people. Most files that you will find looking around the internet r fromed from research, and reaserch is done thought ex tensive study. L Ron Hubbards IQ is almost unfathomable. if you ever have read his work. half the time your looking up words in the dictornary just to under stand what he's convaying to you. If you have any questions please feel free to ask ill be checkin g t his beacuse i see alot of you want answers. most of the time a sciontogeist will tell you to go look it up in this and that book. beacuse they do not want to twist or mis interprate the information. i can tell you the best i can. and can give you an adres s to wright to that will always get answerd and always have the right answer or a way to find it. beacuse most of the time answers suck but finding the answers your selfs holds the most rewards.
tRISUS <trisus007@hotmail.com>
- Friday, February 16, 2001 at 17:08:04 (EST)
Hey it works for me, thats all i can say.
Frantz
- Friday, February 16, 2001 at 13:52:47 (EST)
"I admit that my visions can never mean to other men as much as they do to me. I do not regret this. All I ask is that my results should convince seekers after truth that there is beyond doubt something worth while seeking, attainable by methods more o r less like mine. I do not want to father a flock, to be the fetish of fools and fanatics, or the founder of a faith whose followers are content to echo my opinions. I want each man to cut his own way through the jungle."
- Aliester Crowley
- Thursday, February 15, 2001 at 20:02:51 (EST)
Scientology is a pile of crap for rich buggers. I do feel sorry for them, the mad schizophrenics.
Adolf Hitler
- Friday, February 09, 2001 at 16:09:08 (EST)
After reading the different comments from the people in this guestbook, I feel so sorry for them. They are searching for something. The only person who can feel that emptiness is Jesus Christ. God sent him, his only son to die on a cross for our sins. Anyone who comes to him, and asks him to come into their life, he will. He will forgive you of your sins and give you eternal life. Not only will you have eternal life but a peaceful wonderful life here on earth. He doesn't promise that you will never have to face problems or difficulities, but he will be there for you. God loves you, each of us so much. Satan will do anything to destroy what God has for us, but he never will. God has already won the victory, and that was when Jesus died on that cross for us, the whole world. I pray that everyone involved in this awful cult will turn from it and run!!!!! to the Lord Jesus Christ. I'm going to give you a list of different web sites that will help you understand God's plan of salvation. Please ,Please look at them. www.crosswalk.com www.iBelieve.com www.precept.org and get yourself The Holy Bible and read the whole book of Romans such as the verses Romans 3:23 Romans 5:8 and Ephesians 2:8-9 also Romans 10:9 If you believe that Jesus died for your sins and you want to receive new life through him, pray a prayer similar to this: Dear God, I know that I am a sinner. I believe Jesus died to forgive me of my sins. I now accept your offer of eternal life. Thank you for forgiving me of all my sin. Thank you for m y new life. From this day forward, I will choose to follow You. Amen. I will be praying for each and everyone who is involved in this scientology cult and any other cults.
Paul
- Thursday, February 08, 2001 at 21:51:00 (EST)
I appreciately talking to others who question scientology's purpose.
demonish actor <class8crse@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, February 08, 2001 at 18:14:25 (EST)
I have recently involved myself with a Scientologists that has been invloved for almost 5 years. I have so many questions to be aswered but she always seems to avoid her opinion when asked. She asks me to read just the books she gives me but I tell her that I must also do my own research with other views/opinions about the subject of Scientology. These are the FACTS in whicj I read either good or bad or in the middle on the fine line in which I travel. I'm taking the good views(books given to me by a S cientologist) and the "Critic(s)" view(s)(Internet/word of mouth) in which I am forming my own opinion. That is all she asks is for my own opinion. From my research she is not going to like it. I know our relationship is still new, but the questions I'm t hinking of asking can be the end of our relationship if not answered in her own opinion. As a wise man once told me.."Learn from the past...live the now...and prepare for the future..". The questions I want to ask regards to a family life and possible c hil dren..... I'm a strong believer that any 2 people that want to eventually get married must have the same religious beliefs... We get along so well...(sigh)..... any comments are welcome.
Adam <Hofferadam@hotmail.com>
- Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 23:01:27 (EST)
quoted from ars:
Well, the trial date came, and Heber pulled a Hubbard on the court. Now losing the 1.1 million dollar, the cult had to put up, to get criminal Heber out of Spain. Here's the story behind this trial: According to a December 1988 edition of the Orange County (California) Register, the president of the Los Angeles based Church of Scientology and 10 other members were arrested in an investigation of alleged fraud and tax evasion charges. Judge Jose Maria Vazquez Honrubia of Madrid, Spain, said Narconon, a church-linked drug-rehabilitation program, swindled its clients and lured them into Scientology. Church President Heber Jentzsch was released on $1.1 million bail, and 10 foreigners were expelled from the country. Earlier, the Register noted that Jentzsch and 70 other people were detained as part of an investigation into charges of fraud, criminal association and tax evasion. Judge Vazquez Honrubia said authorities had frozen $1.76 million in bank accounts belonging to officials of the US based Church of Scientology and the Church's Drug-Rehabilitation program, Narconon. Spain has twice refused to grant the organization legal status as a religious entity in that country. The Spanish probe.. Spanish Inquisition, according to church officials... was prompted by complaints from Spaniards who said they had been swindled out of money through drug-rehabilitation programs and other activities related to the Church of Scientology. In 1983, Hubbard's wife was sentenced to four years in prison for conspiring with other Scientologists to bug and burglarize government agencies including the IRS, Time magazine reported.

Nora Karina Marroquin Rodas <entornos@xelaenlinea.com.gt>
- Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 21:42:54 (EST)
Next comes the President of the cult he founded, Heber Jentzsch, who has just recently skipped out on a million dollars bail for felonies in Spain, making him a fugitive from justice and persona non grata in all of Europe. A habitual liar, who constantly claims that his cult has eight million members, this criminal can be seen in handcuffs all around the net, and can accurately be described as a bail-jumping felon. Heber Jentzsch Spanish criminal charges http://www.lermanet.com/heberspanishwoes.htm Photos of Heber Jentzsch in handcuffs http://home.kvalito.no/~xenu/archive/photoalbum/spain.html Fugitive Heber Jentzsch fails to appear for trial http://www.elpais.es/p/d/20010206/sociedad/ciencio.htm The cult is led by high-school dropout David Miscavige, who when he has been forced to be deposed in court concerning his criminal activities, has exposed his sexual perversions by exploding in a bizarre outburst about public buggery David Miscavige bizarre buggery outburst http://holysmoke.org/lm/lm005.htm

Maximus <surf1@amigo.net.gt>
- Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 21:36:12 (EST)
I live near Clearwater, FL, where the headquarters of Scientology in slowly taking over the town. I drive down town to my doctor's office and often pass the Scientology robots on the street. They wear blue shirts and pants, and some kind of scarf. M en and women wear the same uniform. Before I even knew what Scientology was about, I noticed how blank the faces of these people looked. There eyes looked glazed over and they only looked forward--walking down the street with their books and papers in hand from building to building (they o wn quite a few now and they are currently building a 46 story building in Clearwater, the tallest in FL, and they will put a huge Scientoloty cross on the top). I felt sorry for them. Something looked strange. They didn't look right or interact with others. Now that I have read and know more about them, I know that they are a dangerous cult. They do not care about the robots they have created, they only use them. What makes them dangerous is they are infiltrating our society. They have a school near Clearwater called "Delphi Academy". They do not tell you this school is run by them, I found out through another souce. This school advertises that they can teach your children better and make them very intelligent. What inocent parents don't realize is that they are sending their children to a school run by Satan's cult. Beware and be very afraid. Stay away from these people. Flee them and cling to God and the bible. I feel very strongly that they will have some part with the end times and with the anti-Chris t.
Lilou
- Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 13:50:29 (EST)
los FELICITO!!!! LA VERDAD OS HARÁ LIBRES
santiago
- Tuesday, February 06, 2001 at 21:48:11 (EST)
Whoa, I'm kinda worried here. I had always wondered what scientology was, so I checked out this page, and ended up reading about the Scientology vs. the Internet, and all their other weird activites. I'm kinda scared here, man. These people need to be stopped I mean, weird cults and religions are okay, but these people are evil. --------------------- Praise "Bob"
Einstein Jones <KUnderw674@aol.com>
- Monday, February 05, 2001 at 12:41:35 (EST)
smells
my butt
- Friday, January 26, 2001 at 18:07:10 (EST)
Very interesting website. Keep up the good work.
Richard Bealey <su1410@eclipse.co.uk>
- Sunday, January 21, 2001 at 17:23:15 (EST)
I enjoyed my visit. We all need a way. Stay well and best regards.
Doug Snedden <doug.snedden@sympatico.ca>
- Sunday, January 14, 2001 at 08:32:01 (EST)
Scientology brought all of the negative attention on its self, they have only themselves to blame. The world hates them and they are going out of business because they cant do anything in secret, because the world is watching them, and anything they do is posted to the internet. i.e.
zaphod
- Friday, January 05, 2001 at 15:15:10 (EST)
Thank God for the net. My daughter almost got involved with this Scientology thing through a friend. We went on to the computer to learn more about it and the rest is history. Her friend is now on the way out and so are a few of his people. I will now tell everyone I know about it and I hope everyone else does the same.
Mom
- Thursday, January 04, 2001 at 11:04:05 (EST)
Scientology sucks, but the stuff about 2001 was very kewl
AlzheimeR
- Friday, December 29, 2000 at 10:11:16 (EST)
Hi. I had many questions about Scientology from the beginning. My chiropractor was the initial, constant push to get me involved. I finally went to one of their centers (SO NOT A CHURCH) after 3 years of questioning, researching, etc.. I really liked s ome of the stuff they offered. But I found it odd that they wanted to "help you" but you had to keep paying them! Here were some other really odd things in a couple months time: * they were angry, all the time! I asked myself how I could be centered around such fearful and hostile, over-aggressive people. They stopped at nothing. * I found out that the Hollywood stars are treated differently- they have different classes and books than the everyday Joes. I realized that part of their strategy was to always make sure a star is happy, that way they will always positively promote the organization. So, to all lengths, they will do whatever it takes to make a Hollyweird star happy. * I realized how self-centered everyone was. That's not love. That's not religion. Everyone was in it for themselves, showy, and again, over aggressive. * They wanted to sign me up for the Purif program. I had no money. They told me to max out my credit card! It was like $1,600 or something. Big deal- you take some cheap vitamins, go on a treadmill, and sit in a sauna for a month. What I LOVED most about that was the IRONY!! Here, once you went through the program, you were supposed to be rid of all drugs, addictions, clean out your system, etc.. then if all the workers at the center had gone through the program, why were they chain smokers! That was SO H YSTERICAL! * I realized every stupid piece of crappy literature had a huge price tag on it. I compared that to being a Christian where they hand out Bibles for free. I saw that they really didn't want to help me, but wanted my money. * After I backed away from the center, they hand-wrote me letters on a weekly basis. Asking me when I was coming back. Of course I never went back. Most recently, 2 years later, I moved- within a week's time they found my new address, and send me their cr ap to my house. I don't even open it or recycle it. I tear it up; totally wasting some poor sucker's money! So, check it out for yourself. I did. But you have to be strong enough to see the underlying evil in it. That's all it is. * Check out their leader. A science fiction writer??! If you can't see that one clearly, man, I feel bad for you all ready!! *
READ THIS!! <scarentology@yahoo.com>
- Monday, December 18, 2000 at 16:57:47 (EST)
Keep up the good work!
AcademyX
- Friday, December 08, 2000 at 20:52:39 (EST)
Thank you for this website. As I have emailed other vocal critics and stated, websites alone will not bring down this cult. I want to help organize protest at the universities in my city. These will bring out the local news. To date I have seen no coverage of this issue in the regional news media. I lost two friends to the cult of scientology. I don't have a problem speaking out now. Or I should say I'm not afraid. If you live in the western Pennsylvania or eastern Ohio area and want to protest please email me. tonycard@yahoo.com
Tony Card <tonycard2000@yahoo.com>
- Tuesday, December 05, 2000 at 15:31:10 (EST)
The Church of Dynamology shall rule the world! All you wogs and suppressives (and pinks, too) report at once to: http://dynamology.freeservers.com!
N. Graham Dullard <ngraham@address.com>
- Monday, November 27, 2000 at 10:12:26 (EST)
I logged on to your web page intending to learn something about Scientology. You even suggested that your site was impartial. I know noting new or pertinent about scientology. All I know is that your website is not impartial. Thank you.
John Trawley
- Wednesday, November 22, 2000 at 19:06:36 (EST)
If I believed in a devil, I'd be ready to say that Scientology was run by Satan himself. It is IMO the most demonic cult on earth. Also, though I am in general one who favours fredom of thought, belief and speech, this is one exception. This evil organisation needs to be stamped out with all the fervour of eradicating a foul epidemic disease.
Mac <wilmac@hotkey.net.au>
- Monday, November 13, 2000 at 21:30:48 (EST)
I played with $cn for short period to time. The whole time I was involved, something was wrong. I could not put a finger on it, but something was wrong. The communications course was interesting, the people were nice, (at first) the Purif was kinda fu n, had a cute young babe as my twin, what could be better? They got really nasty when I refused to shell out more money for more services after TR&OBJ. It all started out as peer pressure, then direct confrontation, followed by a shouting match. I still don't understand why I didn't walk out sooner? I am not a weak minded person. My wife can support that claim. Thankfully, I did not continue on with their cycle. They really are good at using their "tech" against the people they are "servicing". It all starts with their version of the communication cycle that they teach. It seems so benign, but it is their best tool in controling people. After a few short PR courses (communications, money management, child rearing, etc) and a Purif follwed by a TRs&OBJ, you should have enough indoctrination to respond to their manipulation of the comm cycle to steer you into any decision they wish. Their formula has been under developement for nearly 50 years so, of course it works. What they don't tell you is that it only works to gain and keep new members (and their money). It doesn't make any ones lives better. I have had contact with some former members that are angry with themselves for not blowing sooner. I have even had the good fortune to make an acquaintance with Judy Goldsberry-Webber, a former $ea Qrg member. She won't say much about Lisa McPherson for fear of retaliation. The thing that I see as really wrong is the attitude of superiority they exibit toward us "common folk"... And that's another story...
Big Johnson <Johnson@notonyourlife.com>
- Saturday, November 04, 2000 at 15:02:27 (EST)
You might want to read the book "Combatting Cult mind Control" by Steve Hassan - it's meant exactly for people in your situation, to help you deal with this situation and hopefully convince him to leave the cult. Good luck.
lurker
- Friday, November 03, 2000 at 22:34:20 (EST)
My boyfriend uses Scientology. I didn't know anything about it for the first six months we dated. I asked him on several occasions to tell me about it, but he seemed unwilling, or unable. Finally he told me that I could come to a seminar, and that he w ould pay for it. I got concerned and asked if I would be able to learn about sc., or if I would have to believe it. He told me,"it would be easier if you did." That was when I decided to go get some information for myself. I had never gone on line before, but I'm sure glad I did then. Now I'm torn Between wanting to help him get out of it, and recognizing that this is something that he values highly in his life. I have been hiding from him the fact that I've read much critical information, and am very sceptical of sc. I've seen a counselor about my dilemma, also a fact I haven't bothered to share with him. Tonight he's coming to visit me, knowing that I have som e important things I want to talk with him about. Wish me luck. I fear I'm about to become an overt SP!
cecile <gnorlander@yahoo.com>
- Friday, November 03, 2000 at 14:17:48 (EST)
Juan: You must be an idiot. What does it mean to be found "gulty" in court? You need to go to a quick brain session to clear up your MU's on spelling.<>A sequel to Battlefield:Earth will be just as "successful" as the first. Which cost 80 million to m ake, and made 20 million, That's 60 million NegaDollars!!!!!! WOW! Plus it was the laughing stock of the film industry this year. The problem was that it was not meant to be a comedy. It was the 3rd worst film ever, that was released on 3000+ screens. Som eone needs to tell Travolta the difference between a movie being D'Bomb and a bomb.
Chuckle
- Monday, October 23, 2000 at 10:34:33 (EDT)
Juan: You must be an idiot. What does it mean to be found "gulty" in court? You need to go to a quick brain session to clear up your MU's on spelling.<>A sequel to Battlefield:Earth will be just as "successful" as the first. Which cost 80 million to m ake, and made 20 million, That's 60 million NegaDollars!!!!!! WOW! Plus it was the laughing stock of the film industry this year. The problem was that it was not meant to be a comedy. It was the 3rd worst film ever, that was released on 3000+ screen. Some one needs to tell Travolta the difference between a movie being D'Bomb and a bomb.
Chuckle
- Monday, October 23, 2000 at 10:32:48 (EDT)
I don´t need a pseudonym, I am a scientologist, you are acting against the law using our trademarks,so be ready to be found gulty in court, can´t you see what are you fighting against, don´t you know that we are winning? can´t you see what are you tryi ng to stop, nobody can, we will free man from people like you and have peace on earth where respect will rise again.
juan <achit@hotmail.com>
- Sunday, October 22, 2000 at 18:13:13 (EDT)
Battlefield Earth: the sequel...aaahhh! (and i say that not just because of Scientology, but because i happen to like *good* films) It seems the sequel will pick up where the first left off, as it only covered about the first half of the 1000 page boo k. They've slated a $120 million budget, surprise surprise.
Inconsequentia
- Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 14:06:26 (EDT)
Dianetic$?: L. Ron Hubbard claimed that through this process called "auditing", people could regain supernatural abilities that they had in the remote past. He himself claimed to have such abilities. He once boasted that he had transported himself to the planet Venus -- where he was nearly run over by a freight locomotive. If you don't believe anyone would say such a stupid thing, then listening to him say it might convince you. If you have a connection to the internet and your PC has a soundcard, you can download the free RealPlayer from www.real.com and then hear him say it at the following link: www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/rams/Venusloc.ram
You can find out more about Scientology by searching the internet. The most famous critical sites are www.xenu.net and www.factnet.org. This flyer has introduced you to the lunatic nature of Scientology and its founder. It has a much darker side to its nature though and you will find stories of lost fortunes, broken families, suicides, torture, illegal imprisonment and many other criminal acts.
SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS NUT-CULT
This flyer can be downloaded in compressed Word 6 format from www.xs4all.nl/~xemu/flyers/Cult.html . This is a public domain document so you are free to make copies without restriction. Why not print off a few copies and give it to your friends and family? This way they will be forewarned against the lies and PR nonsense put out by this cult.
Regards
Io
io
- Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 10:24:45 (EDT)
Hasn't done much for your spelling. Why does $cientology have it's own prison camp, the RFP, and it's own enforcement arm, the OSA? Why have so many $cientologists committed suicide after going bankrupt? How's Lisa McPherson doing?
Chuckle
- Friday, October 20, 2000 at 10:39:23 (EDT)
First of all, I think that everyone who has been to this site has missed the entire point of dianetics. First you must be open minded as well as intelligent in order to grasp the total concept. This is a science; a science that inhibits the mind to overcome the mental blocks that we have put in our own little heads as well as society. This has nothing to do with God! Most people only use a third of their mental capability, this science gives you the key to unlock the rest of that knowledge and se e the world, people and religion as they really are. Take another look, open your mind and try to be just not a biggot. Do not follow the heard break away and be you; sepperate from everyone else and THINK WITH REASON!
Augustus Nadia <billnadiak@alltel.net>
- Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 23:01:27 (EDT)
i will be renting this site out for a couple weeks...so just pound your worthless puds while i update this to a new type of site..it will now be "the top ten set of scientology tits"
rental
- Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 21:49:49 (EDT)
Poof! You are all $cientologists and must give me all your money, and worship me, and do whatever I say, and commit felonies to further our "religion". Hahahahahahah X2
L. Ron Hubbard
- Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 12:07:43 (EDT)
well well.....i own this room and you all still show without gifts.....now you will have to be punished.....poof....now you are all catholic...hahhhahahahahha gotcha
yesssss
- Monday, October 09, 2000 at 21:44:11 (EDT)
in many ways i would say yes
yes
- Wednesday, October 04, 2000 at 19:30:57 (EDT)
wow. i love the site! i am humbled!
annie (click here to vote to keep love alive in our families)
- Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 22:05:16 (EDT)
Happy 41st Birthday to Lisa McPherson in German: http://www.lisamcpherson.net/ and possibly http://www.lisamcpherson.de or English: http://cisar.org/000917b.htm http://cisar.org/000917c.htm http://cisar.org/000918a.htm Groet!
marcab_4
- Monday, October 02, 2000 at 21:01:48 (EDT)
I don't give a fling bible
Puff <yehrightlikeiwouldtellyou.co.uk>
- Monday, October 02, 2000 at 18:29:10 (EDT)
Yeah- Scientology did a real good job of unbrainwashing and restoring self determinism to Lisa McPherson. How's she getting on?
Chuckles
- Monday, October 02, 2000 at 09:37:01 (EDT)
Yes, Scientology will unbrainwash you and restore your self-determinism to you. What a horrible thing to contemplate!
a friend
- Saturday, September 30, 2000 at 23:20:23 (EDT)
To Lighterate: $cientology is a Deadly organization, A Money Scam, BEWARE of Scientology! The "Church" of Scientology (aka. Dianetics) is seeking to recruit new members through advertising and posts Many thousands of ex-members consider Scientology/Dianetics to be a DANGEROUS and UNSCRUPULOUS CULT, with a long history of human rights abuses and many CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS in many countries. For more Critic info visit: http://www.xenu.net or here on Modemac's Site!!!
a friend
- Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 18:45:03 (EDT)
I am currently writing an article on Scientology and am reading as much as I can on the subject. Obviously this will only be a nanogram of what is available. I read the official web page of scientology with great interest. Perhaps the most lucid statem ent was this one: "In a word, scientology works." Actually, that's two words. Or am I now supposed to question the abstract reality of quanitive mathematics? If you could give me a good soundbite I would greatly appreciate it. Scientology in a soundbite? Hit me.
lighterate <lighterate@yahoo.com>
- Thursday, September 28, 2000 at 14:40:41 (EDT)

Serious mistakes recognized To all who have been and are involved, Serious mistakes have been made in the research that was directed by Koos Nolst Trenite. The hidden intentions of Koos, of who he actually is, are now being looked into by me (Tulka) and Noel. Koos had motives of self-importance and absolute certainty of his rightness. I received severe physical beatings by Koos, and severe vulgar language shouted at me by Koos, for six to 24 hours at a time. This Koos justified by various means, for instance that I refused to see his viewpoint, or that I was being mindcontroled by various people to not agree to him. I at that time accepted those physical beatings and vulgar language, because Koos made me believe, during and afterwards, that I was making it necessary for him to so called "restrain" me. No matter how true you might think the data to be, it still does not justify those physical actions, and certainly not, if they are supposedly coming form an Archangel. As you may have noticed when reading or listening to the data written by Koos or recorded from sessions, the data was not looked or discussed or corrected for errors by anyone else than Koos himself. This already disqualifies the data form being research data. It is, as a matter of fact, and especially under those circumstances, only information that Koos intended to use in order to achieve justification for is actions. The physical violence and vulgar language by Koos, is not something new. He did the same to Freya and also to Jutta, for his same reasons. This behavior of his is not in any way justifiable, by anything. The Ambassador for Mankind Foundation will be closed. Koos is at the moment in a mental hospital, and will be staying there for an unknown amount of time. I still want to find out what actually is the truth behind all the data that I have given in the sessions, and I will look into it in the future, if anyone else is also interested in hearing the results, just let me know. I and Noel are at the moment cleaning up the rests of Koos' mess, and are tring to start a new life. I will be returning to San Francisco Bay Area, Noel will be staring a new life in Germany. Any support that you can give us, if emotional, or even physical, if by helpful contacts, or even financially, to help us through this time. With love from, Me (Tulka) and Noel Noel Nolst Trenite Herbstwiesen 10 D-91090 Gaiganz Germany Tel: +49 9199 697149 E-Mail: Noel.Nolst@Trenite.de

jun-junha-pu <n/a>
- Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 22:33:18 (EDT)
ja lives
yaya
- Wednesday, September 27, 2000 at 18:12:28 (EDT)
BUENOS AIRES22/09/2000.Escribo para invitarlos a leer gratuitamente on line el libro LA PEQUEÑA PAGINA VESTIDA DE SOL OCULTO POR OVNIS. Cap. 16 publicado. Total 30. Saludos.// LUNFA: 22/09/2000. Mirá el toco canyengue qui aparece todo lo lune// ENGLISH: Buenos Aires, september 22, 2.000. In the Url http://www.sinectis.com.ar/u/brieux there is a book in 30 chapters Come in with a translator english spanish. Read free.Keep smiling! Now muy farewell. All the best to you. GRAND JOVIALISTE./ / FRANCAIS: Septembre 22, 2.000. J´ai le plaisir de vous inviter a lire FREE avec un traducteur francais espagnol le livre on line de GRAND JOVIALISTE Mille bons souvenirs...// GERMAN: 22-09- 2.000.Haben sie die buch gelefen LA PEQUEÑA PAGE... Vielen dank. Auswiederseben. GRAND JOVIALISTE// PORTUGAIS: 22/09/2.000.- Felicito-o. Eu sou GRAND JOVIALISTE. Livro informacao LA PEQUEÑA...Leitura com translator espanhol-portugais. Cumprimento-o muito atentamente// ITALIAN: Settembre 22 di 2.000.- Yo avo il desiderio e il piacere de invitare a tutti a leggere "free" el libro on line GRAND JOVIALISTE. Translator spagnuolo-Italian. Informarsi con umore. Saluti. Fino a dopo.// LATIN: 22/09/2.000.Internautus:Leggere via Internet http://www.sinectis.com.ar/u/brieux Ave Roma!//
GRAND JOVIALISTE <jovialiste@sinectis.com.ar>
- Saturday, September 23, 2000 at 12:30:44 (EDT)
aaargghhh...
aaargghh...
- Friday, September 22, 2000 at 21:44:53 (EDT)
I AM THE CHAMP...I HAVE OFFICIALLY TAKEN OVER THIS ROOM....I AM STARTING MY OWN SCIENTOLOGY...THE ART OF BIATCHES AND HO'S.....READ MY NEW BOOK BIATCHES AND HO'S BY ME..THE CHAMP....YOU ALL SHALL BOW TO ME.....DO IT NOW....SEND ME MONEY AND YOU WILL BE SAVED...I HAVE POSTED EVERYTHING IN HERE...CHUCKLES BE GONE..ALL THOSE WHO TAKE THIS RELIGION TO HEART...HAVE A HEARTATTACK...FORGET ABOUT IT...IT IS TOO SILLY TO GET WORKED UP ABOUT....HUBBARD WAS A BUTT PIRATE...HE STOLE FROM THE MEEK AND ATE OUT THE P OOR.....HAHAHAHHAHA THIS SITE IS MINE.....I NOW HAVE MY OWN WEBSITE...YES SUCCESS..THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.....DROP ME A LINE AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THE CHANGES..I AM SURE YOU WILL AGREE THAT IT IS MUCH BETTER WITHOUT THAT USELESS FAKE RELIGION CRA P...ANYONE LIKE FOOTBALL...MAKE IT YOUR GOD....DO YOU LIKE BASEBALL..THE YANKEES...THEN REPENT FOR THEY ARE THE DEVIL.....I WILL SPEAK TO YOU SOON MY FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS...REMEMBER SEND MONEY
I AM CHAMPION
- Friday, September 22, 2000 at 18:58:30 (EDT)
who is dis guy
scmuck
- Friday, September 22, 2000 at 18:52:07 (EDT)
dare
dinke
- Thursday, September 21, 2000 at 19:03:57 (EDT)
yea i am
stinky
- Wednesday, September 20, 2000 at 20:23:18 (EDT)
uhhh so like who really cares about this crap...huhuhuhuhhu???anyone bueller bueller bueller...loser loser loser..smellybutsmellybutsmellybut.....i heard hubbard had sex with cows while giving head to a donkey...any of u losers substantiate that...can you confirm or deny this.....or waz it a goat..huhuhuhuhuh...chuckles likes buckles..across hi bum bum...i like that..bumbumbumbumbumbumbum...hahahah stinky in the pinky likes smelly van winky....into each light a certain darkness will grow...just like a bunghole...deep huh...just like yo mama's puntang..hahahaha lol
dude
- Monday, September 18, 2000 at 21:44:43 (EDT)
methinnkymestinkymesweatylittlepinky
tinkydoodoo
- Monday, September 18, 2000 at 21:39:36 (EDT)
I found this interesting entry in the Skeptic's Dictionary on Dianetics, you can find it at http://wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us/~btcarrol/skeptic/dianetic.html One of the quotes from it that amused me, "scientists generally respect logic and would have difficulty saying with a straight face that this new science must show that there is a single source of all insanities except for those insanities that are caus ed by other sources." check it out, it's a good read.
Inconsequentia
- Monday, September 18, 2000 at 19:23:27 (EDT)
Pffut!
Pffut
- Thursday, September 14, 2000 at 22:45:00 (EDT)
No, sorry, I don't have a good source to quote on Berkowitz, and I'm not sure if he was taking courses, I think that Scientology was an interest to him and he was self studying it, and that Scientology books were at his residence when the police search ed it. Also, another member of the Charles Manson family was into it but I don't remember his name...maybe Scientology can help me remember. (heheheh) I've been to every critical site and they are all linked so I can't tell them apart. But they all have neat little tidbits about Scientology, that Scientology does not want us to know about.
Chuckle
- Wednesday, September 13, 2000 at 10:59:39 (EDT)
Really, David Berkowitz? ...in my job I research a lot of insane people, (not that I'm not one, heh) and never ran across that. Do you happen to have any web-based doc on that, or a ref title for me? ...you will not believe the piece I am becoming able to put together on Scientology, just based on my career-trained investigating. Not that I know anyone to share it with. My friends are insane in different ways. Peace. (the turtle moves)< /b>
Inconsequentia
- Tuesday, September 12, 2000 at 21:59:37 (EDT)
Chuck
Chucky
- Tuesday, September 12, 2000 at 21:52:48 (EDT)
It is a fact that Scientology tries to keep from the public, that Charles Manson was a member and so was Sirhan Sirhan (Robert Kennedy's assassin), and the David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz. Scientology attracts insane people, and also creates them.
Chuckle
- Tuesday, September 12, 2000 at 12:13:18 (EDT)
pick
picky
- Thursday, September 07, 2000 at 20:27:41 (EDT)
snip
snippy
- Wednesday, September 06, 2000 at 22:37:01 (EDT)
...Bet no one remembers me... Just thought I'd drop by with a URL I came across when doing a bit of research for my new piece...especially nice to see the letter from the ex-Scientologist at the bottom: http://www.mansonmurders.com/scientologylink.htm peace. (the turtle moves)
Inconsequentia
- Wednesday, September 06, 2000 at 17:59:06 (EDT)
goose
duck
- Thursday, August 31, 2000 at 20:07:59 (EDT)
Cow.
The old Chuckle
- Tuesday, August 29, 2000 at 17:41:31 (EDT)
bull
no
- Monday, August 28, 2000 at 22:09:05 (EDT)
Guestbook test.
Modemac <modemac@modemac.com>
- Saturday, August 26, 2000 at 20:41:29 (EDT)
Message to Scientologists: If it isn't fun, it isn't Scientology.
When was the last time you actually felt it was fun?
When was the last time you didn't have to worry about if you say the wrong thing, that somone would write a report on you?
How many times have you not said or done something you wanted to do, because you learned the lesson of "if the org doesn't agree with it, I will have to pay for sec checks so I better just do nothing or say nothing"?
Do you REALLY think it is ok to treat people in the way Dennis Clarke, along with two other TOP OF THE BRIDGE scientologists treated Ursula?
How many times have you heard "someone messed it up, so come in and do this new improved version that is NOW source? (especially in regards OT 7) I mean, I did OT 5 twice, and OT 6 THREE TIMES! And all three times I had to pay for someone else's error, as I didn't write the course, and neither did you.
Do you ever wonder why you never see our top management, or OSA actually using communication and arc to handle people that are upset in some way with Scientology? Do you see them actually being civil to Bob Minton, or Stacy Brooks, who obviously have some legitimate concerns? Are you civil to people, or do you do whatever "the group does"?
For OT 7's, when was the last time you had auditing at Flag, where you really felt that that session was just for you, and noone else? Not for RTC to "see" if your ethics are in, not for an auditor to show you how good they are or test their "new and improved skills" on you, but for you, and you alone?
How about when you found an altered issue, deleted issue, cancelled, or just plain "new" issue, and you just KNEW there was something funny with it?
Why didn't you do anything?
Or if you did, and actually had the nerve to write it up, when was the last time you actually either a: got an answer saying it will be fixed and b: Actually saw it GET fixed?
Why are you letting your Church slowly get destroyed, and scientology get less and less fun?
Way down deep, and only when you are alone with your thoughts, does a resounding thought just keep on coming back, over and over and over, no matter how many sec checks, no matter how many ethics handlings.
And that thought is.....SOMETHING IS WRONG.
It just won't go away, will it? For Sea Org Members, no matter how much David miscaviage yells at you, or how much blackmail is on you, you know.
SOMETHING IS WRONG.
Do you know what courage is? It is doing the right thing, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE AFRAID.
You won't just "get courage", or "buy it", or even "learn" it, you have to go ahead and do the right thing, even though you might be deathly terrified of all the horrible things that will happen if you ignore this fear.
I have had a lot of 7's come up to me over the last 9 years, and EVERY SINGLE ONE was unhappy with one thing or another, and each one said something is wrong, but I could see the fear in their eyes to even "say" this.
I never betrayed even one of their confidences, but it greatly saddened me to see so many scared people.
I know that scared people, will often strike out unthinkingly, or do anything at all to try to make the fear go away.
The only thing I have ever seen make it go away is to face it down.
What are you afraid of?
Besides losing your bridge, (which is a lie)
Is it getting Declared? Your wife/husband leaving you? Your kids disconnecting?, losing your job? Having your pc folder data used against you? Losing your friends?
These things all could happen, it's true, but what do you really have?
If your wife/husband/kids/friends could dump you just like that-how much did they ever care about you in the first place?
Wouldn't you like to have a relationship again that is not based on whether you are in good standing or not?
When did the Church come to control all our lives so much, and why did we let them?
FEAR is why.
Fear is not fun, and it is not scientology.
You will NEVER make it to OT being afraid, you are lying to yourself if you think you will.
Open your eyes, so tightly closed out of fear, and look.
It's not so bad, really.
Really look at your org, mission, or group. How many Public are there? How many new public?
Educate yourself on the attacks on the Church, Rick Ross's site, Veritas, Freezone.org, and yes even Operation Clambake. Andreas has assembled a very comprehensive site with all kinds of data, that you were never allowed to see.
Look around at the OT 7's that you know, how are they REALLY doing? Ask them if they like the six month sec checks, and watch their indicators closely.
Ask yourself why you are letting someone control who you can communicate to, and who you can't. Don't fall for the PR line of "it's your choice". Just go to ethics and tell them you want to talk to Bob Minton, and see what happens.
This is America, where people fought and died for the right to have freedom of speech. Look back, and remember when you never had to think about whether you would "get in trouble" or "lose your eternity" for who you communicate to.
The Bridge is the Bridge to Total Freedom, so ask yourself, are you more free now, or less?
Be honest in your answer, be brave, and do what's right.
Your eternity depends on it.
Been There Done That
- Saturday, July 29, 2000 at 08:04:33 (EDT)
What a Scientologist is forced to do:

1) He must agree with every aspect of Tech and Policy. If he has disagreements they are due ONLY to his misunderstoods (ref. HCOB "Technical queries" ).

This sometimes lead to real stupid incidents. One time a supervisor, after half an hour of altercation, obliged me and another Auditor to clear words because we said that there was a typo in an answer of a Standard Tech Drill. She treathened us of Ethics handlings. The typo was blatant but she repeated several times "There is only one Tech and that is Standard Tech - clear your mus" so, at the end, we said "OK OK we are wrong ... we are going to find the mu" only to go on with the study. After a month a correction was made by Int Manag. and it was demostrated that it was a typo.

2) he must close his eyes when he finds Hubbard's inconsistencies, i.e.:

- when he reads in the book one that Clears have no colds ... then he sees an OT VII that is sneezing, coughing and watering for days, or

- when he reads in the book one that Clears have an high I Q then he sees Clears that are visibly below an average intelligence and are not capable of doing nothing else then speaking about their wonderful state ... but when it comes to real abilities they are indiscernible from "wogs". (They are simply egos pumped up with helium - as LRH junior said), or

- when you study into HCOB "Auditor's rights" (Academy Level 0) that an auditor can refuse a Pc if he feels that he cannot help him but you discover ( much later) that there is another HCOB ("Auditor's rights modified" that is less known and that is not into the courses' packs) that prohibits this and that considers a matter of Ethics if the Auditor feels he cannot help a specific person, or

- when you read into "A history of man" that Scientology can cure everything and then you see veteran Scientologists and OTs that have gastritis, rheumatisms, defective vision, pains in their bodies, or

- when, if you are an Auditor, you find that PCs' memories of this life are sometimes false (you know what and when it happened but the PC give you wrong dates and/or place and this false data produces proper meter reactions too). You start to wonder about the precision of whole track's datings that Ron did in the early fifties with a less reliable e-meter ... what about incidents "precisely" dated trillions of years ago? .... and so on ...

3) He must go and search for money, money, money .... ALWAYS running to be in time before Thursday 2.00 p.m.

4) When he finishes his money ( it will soon happen due to the incredible cost of the Scientology's services and IAS donations) he must quicky learn new and imaginative ways to get loans

5) Little by little he must leave his former friends ... they are only "wogs" and he has no time to waste. He must run on the Bridge as quicky as possible and the time spent to "play bowling" is a crime against humanity. In the seventies Hubbard wrote in a Policy that the world was going to finish within the next 30 years ( it's something similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses end-of-the-world)... so it's better run.

6) He must submit himself to various injustices, i.e.:

-he is doing Grade Zero, one day a session goes wrong - the auditor chooses a wrong item or meter reaction and the pc go bug - it takes two hours of correction lists to patch up the mistake. This can be called technically "no auditing" ... but if only the session ends with an F/N ( and the Auditor will try everything he knows to get that F/N) the pc will have to pay these wasted hours (at about 150 $ for hour in a class V org). It can happen ... and it happens.

-the pc has to pay even the word clearings as auditing hours. I remember real nightmares when I was auditing persons that had serious difficulties to understand ... their word clearings sometimes continued for hours and hours. That costed them up to one thousand dollars ... only to clear words. The same word clearing, if done in the classroom, it's free. But, according to Hubbard's bulletins, it must be done in session. If this is not a scam....

and so on ...

6) He cannot protest if the org is ringing him every day for ... a new event, a new book to buy/sell, another meeting, the OT commettee, the FSM meeting, a IAS improvised event, a new donation, a new course, the next step of his Bridge, a fair where he is supposed to sell Dianetics books, a "Say no to drugs" meeting, an ABLE reunion, an event to celebrate a new Clear/OT, tours held by higher orgs and so on . Staff members are pressed to press the public and the result is an hamburger. If the public only beckons a small protest... he is natter so he must have witholds ... so it's better he is ordered to write O/Ws or, if he is on the auditing lines, to do a seck check. Staff members are themselves victims of this perverted game.

A Scientologist can think freely only in a little measure. If his thinking doesn't fit well with Source it must be "corrected".

-- The voice of truth
Voice of Truth
- Sunday, June 18, 2000 at 05:37:13 (EDT)

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