Path: netnews.worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.uio.no!ifi.uio.no!news.cistron.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!xs4all!xs4all!usenet From: jeta@xs4all.nl (Eggers, Jeta) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,nl.scientology,xs4all.general Subject: Co$ withdraws - Email from Kobrin. Followup-To: alt.religion.scientology Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 21:35:52 GMT Organization: Een of andere Church(tm!) (= verdomd handig) Lines: 102 Message-ID: <5398oa$1rb@news.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: jeta@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: asd13-19.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 23:36:10 MET DST X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: netnews.worldnet.att.net alt.religion.scientology:149843 nl.scientology:713 . References: [NOT-34 posting]: <52s3mh$7dr@news.xs4all.nl> 01 Oct 1996 21:49:48 GMT [Email Kobrin] : 2 Oct 1996 19:31:49 -0700 (PDT) ===================================================================== > Unauthorized posting of copyrighted material (NOT-34) ----------------------------------------------------- > Dear Mr. Eggers, > > I represent Religious Technology Center ("RTC"), the owner of > the confidential Advanced Technology of the religion of > Scientology, and the holder of exclusive rights under the > copyrights applicable to the Advanced Technology materials. The > Advanced Technology materials are confidential, unpublished, > copyrighted works. They include, among others, the individual > works comprising the "NOTs Series," including a work called NOTs > Series 34. The copyright registrations applicable to this work is > TXu 257326 and TXu 257527. Dear Helena, I represent 'Een of andere Church(tm!)'. I'm the MD (managing director). Last count: 8,324,981 active members, worldwide. Our organisation also sells nothing, like yours. Fact is, however, that, for some peculiar reason, people are willing to pay lots of money for it. Great market! > You have posted a message containing NOTs Series 34 to the > alt.religion.scientology newsgroup without the authorization of my > client, which would not have been given, in any event. Your action > is therefore a copyright infringement under U.S. and Dutch > copyright laws. Helena, our business is engaged in heavy competition with yours. Up to this date, your compagny is winning. But..., we too want to survive. I am sure you'll understand this attitude. I've had a meeting with our lawyers last night; and they have assured me that we have NOT infringed upon your copyright under Dutch law. If you want to: I'll send you a report on this, written by THE authority in my country. > I therefore demand that you cancel this posting immediately, > destroy all copies of the document included in the posting which > may be in your possession, and confirm to me that you have done so. You're demanding something that's impossible to do. Somebody has already cancelled it. Illegally. I've ordered our 'special agent of foreign affaires' (SAFA-USA) to trace the person who did it. I can assure you this: he or she will find him/herself in jail within a couple of month. Demanding the destruction of copies of the document is insane. I'm sorry to say this. The document is on innumerable hard disks all over the world. Btw, I do not, personally, have the document in my possession. It's just, always!, there whenever I place myself behind a computer. Sorry. > You should also be informed that we are currently involved in > litigation over this work in three separate lawsuits. Preliminary > injunctions based on a finding of copyright infringement are in > place in three of those suits in the United States District Court > in San Jose, California. And on January 19, 1996, a United States > District Court in the state of Virginia granted summary judgment in > favor of my client, finding that the posting of these works to the > Internet constituted copyright infringement. > > In litigation in Holland over similar unpublished, copyrighted > works, the defendants admitted that their postings were infringing > and removed them. I've put someone on this Helena. A very special person indeed. She reported that your compagny is not involved in any lawsuit concerning NOT 34 in The Netherlands. Please don't use this cheap trick anymore, will you? > We are not seeking to engage in litigation, and prefer to > resolve this amicably. Please get back to me immediately. Speed > is essential in light of the urgency of this situation. I'm a very busy _real_ operating thetan Helena. Please forgive me the fact that this reaction took some time. I had to consult about three million souls. Souls that are rotting in and on my body (you call them body thetans). You know what I mean, we are in the same business. To end this posting: I'm disappointed that your compagny does not want to engage mine in a lawsuit initiated by Co$. Now I have to put our people on it, that costs a lot. Well, 'shit happens'. Hug, Jeta [I did IT with Yantra, he's good!] ;-)