Path: wn3!worldnet.att.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.uio.no!Norway.EU.net!online.no!not-for-mail From: heldal@online.no (Andreas Heldal-Lund) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Operation Clambake: News from Norway Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 06:31:12 GMT Organization: Operation Clambake Lines: 90 Message-ID: <33069aa9.739188076@news.telepost.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lcv210.telepost.no X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/32.230 OPERATION CLAMBAKE: News from Norway http://home.sol.no/heldal/ Most of you have probably noticed that my ISP closed down my page, the I'll try to sum up the aftermath: - Scandinavia Online (SOL) closes down Operation Clambake (OC) February 5th 1997. - I receive a short mail informing me about the action, ordering me to remove the material they claim is "most likely" copyrighted. SOL will not open the pages again unless a court tells them to do so. - I reply immediately and ask what files or what part of what files they refer to and ask to see the documentation for the claims and who made them. - I post news about the event to ars and two Norwegian newsgroups. - Ingar Holst puts up a full mirror of OC on his account on Eunet. - The press in Norway starts calling me and SOL. (oh Kobrin, you've done it _again_!!!) - More mirrors of OC appears when the news get out. (I told you this would happen) - SOL answers none of those questions, I'm referred to a director for more information. - After not being able to reach him on the phone, someone at last gives me his email address. - Same day (February 10) I send a mail to this guy where I make it clear that for me to do anything I first need to see the claims and know what files whoever has complained about. I also ask that they open the OC page again, since most of the material there in no way can be claimed to originate from RTC or CoS. - Next day I get a reply, it states that SOL has tried to contact me prior to the closing, but unfortunately he had typed wrong in my address. He promises to reopen any page not demanded removed by RTC. He also tells me that the communication they have had with RTC is marked confidential, he therefore can't show this to me. (great system of justice this...) - I reply to this mail, but so far no response. - All the time the debate has been very busy on the two Norwegian newsgroups. This surely stirred up some interesting thoughts and new critics. - Ingar's page goes down on Friday 14th, but a new mirror was already there to take over. And more will be when that one goes down. This means that OC has been available on the net all the time with only minor breaks not longer than some hours. - The focus now is to make OC available again on my home page, with or without the documents that RTC has complained about. - I just learned that brochures offering Dianetic courses has been distributed in my neighborhood, even though CoS have no "church" here. Now I know they are here. But I must say it took time, it's now 3 months since I was all over putting information about CoS in the mailboxes of all my neighbors. I suspect they know very well what kind of organisation this is. Wonder why they didn't put the brochure in my mailbox? ;) - More media coverage is coming, SOL better clean up their act if they don't want to get more dirt on them. Since McShame has given a written testimony that CoS monitor A.R.S. I hereby ask for any proof of copyright on any of the documents on my page. And by the way, send it through my lawyer (you know Kobrin, the nice guy who sent you that fax). The shit hit the fan again, Kobrin better learn to aim better than this. Best wishes, Andreas ----------------------------------------------------------- OPERATION CLAMBAKE -- http://home.sol.no/heldal/ STOP THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY! ACT NOW!!!!!! --S---p---r---e---a---d------T---h---e------W---o---r---d--