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From: heldal@online.no (Andreas Heldal.Lund)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: 11/12/96: LATEST NEWS FROM NORWAY
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:52:02 GMT
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LATEST NEWS FROM NORWAY!
 
When my Internet provider yesterday told me to remove 8 named files, I
actually did delete those files. But I happened to find 8 other files
with other names, those I put on my page instead. Today they contacted
me again and told me these files probably were similar files. You can
imagine my supprise....
I stated that I was only told to remove files from a list of file
names, not anywhere did CoS show either Telenor or me what content
they talked about.
I will no longer be able to put these files on Telenor's server, if I
do they will close my access to the account. No worries, Operation
Clambake will be stationed there with links to the other papers.
My provider said they would not interfere if the mentioned documents
was placed physically on another than their machines.

-

The response has been fabulous again, this is great fun.
Been interviewed by Stavanger Aftenblad. Later I did a recorded
debate for the the Norwegian Broadcasting Company (the
program Radionettet, don't know when it will come). Two 
minutes before we started I was told I was debating with the boss
of Norway's biggest Intenet provider, which is the provider I use.
Mostly the debate went back and forth about editorial responsibilities
on private home pages.
For the first time I heard that they had received some form of
proof that showed "more than reasonable doubt" to the claim
that this was copyrighted material. I asked to also see this
proof, and I expressed a wish to be a part of their work on
this case. While they earlier today told me they would not do
any more work on this case, I'm now told they still are working 
on evaluating it. 

What "suprises" me is that they get "hours of talk over the
phone with USA" and are sent proof of the copyright claim. 
While Kobrin didn't even bother to reply to my mail. They
better give me the same fair chance to evaluate their claim, 
or keep away from me!

Next Monday I'm invited to another interview, on the net
as far as I've understood.

-

Things are great, NOTs are still all over the net and you'll 
have to believe in Xenu to even think the thought that
this is possible to stop now. If they had some sence they 
would have stopped now and hidden untill the storm blew 
over. But why don't I believe they will?? Hehe, their out
on their boat, not even noticing they are wet from the
neck down.

CoS in Norway also have big problems after they 
recently lost a lawsuit with an ex-member. They do not
have 900.000,- kroner (USD 160,000) to pay and stand
the chance to be declared bankrupt. Would be cool
if CoS USA helped with the money if they need the church
to get me. Then the ex-member get's his money and will 
get to kick them some in court. ;) 
Media sometimes sucks, but now every word from them is
like violins in your ear (yes, I do like violin too). Like in
Sweden, they have no clue what's going on. Zenon, sorry
about the courtcase, but you are the hero anyway! 

Report over for today, I'm going to count som clams.....

Andreas Heldal-Lund 
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