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From: johanw@vulcan.xs4all.nl (Johan Wevers)
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Subject: Meeting with scientology delegation
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:11:58 -0100
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Today (sept 18) I had a meeting with a delegation from scientology: Warren
McShane, head of the RTC, Julia Rijnvis, PR coordinator of scientololgy in
The Netherlands, and Simone Pelkmans, one of their Dutch lawyers.

We talked for about 1:15 hours, mostly directly with McShane and sometimes
with their lawyer, and it basically can be summarized in:

1. The spamming of ars: McShane claimed he didn't know who did it, and he
   was not prepared to aks the spammers to stop. He said that it started
   after postings from Lerma which were copyright infringements in his
   opinion. He was not prepared to ask the spammers to stop.

2. They wanted to settle out of court. They wanted me to sign a document
   with contained 3 points (in summary):

   1. I should stop violating their copyrights, directly or indirectly
      (whatever that means),
   2. I delete all their copyrighted stuff from my computer,
      I try to have the people who got copyrighted documents from them to
      have them removed. Since I don't keep records of who I send such
      documents the only thing I could do is a request on usenet, which is
      very probable ineffective.
   3. I pay them f5000,- (approx US$ 3300) for each violation plus possible
      damages.

I will have a lawyer read their final proposal first before I sign anything
of course.

They didn't ask me any questions about where I obtained the documents from,
neither did they ask or I was also the first Vorlon who posted the NOTs in
May.

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