Path: netnews.worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.corpcomm.net!funny.bahnhof.se!seunet!news2.swip.net!mn6.swip.net!mn5.swip.net!news From: Zenon Panoussis Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Cat and rats (rats with miniature Uzis) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:53:21 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 81 Message-ID: <323D9411.60DA@dodo.pp.se> Reply-To: oracle@dodo.pp.se NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup115-8-8.swipnet.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: s-40153 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b7 (Win16; I) CC: hkk@netcom.com, dm@dma.se, oracle@dodo.pp.se Everything has its bright side. As I wrote earlier today, the court of appeals denied the request for copies of the OTs and NOTs of quite some people in a decision today. The decision was not unanimous; two judges voted for secrecy and one against. I went to the court of appeals in the afternoon to fetch some other documents, and took a copy of the decision of denial, which naturally included the names and addresses of the people that made the requests. Strange list was that. There were 2 Swedish requests and 14 from abroad. Of the 14 foreign requests, 13 were from Spain. Of these 13, 11 came from Madrid. 4 requests came from people with the the same address, and another 4 requests came from 2 addresses. The 14th request came from Switzerland. While the Swiss applicant asked for a bill, the Spanish applicants made no mention of money for the cost of the copies they requested. With the exception of the Swiss request it looks to me like a very clumsy scieno attempt to spam the court with requests for copies. Such methods wouldn't be new to scientology and neither would the clumsiness. But one can never know. I heard that there is a suicide case up in courts in Spain, and these requests could also be connected to it. Anyway, the court didn't honour them. Still later this afternoon, somebody asked me for a copy of my copy of those requests. He got it. A couple of hours later that person told me that *he* had sent off the material to all those that had requested it. So, another impossible situation has arised for the CoS: While the court keeps the OTs and NOTs secret, the requests for them are not secret. Anyone can get copies of the requests, and if that "anybody" on his own accord sends off the material to those that have requested it, the court's secrecy isn't worth the paper it's written on. I wonder how the RTC will handle this situation... Besides, if the 13 Spanish requests were spam, they must have come from low-level scienos. Now the CoS has to see to it that they don't get the material in their hands, that they were told to order. Hmmm... Aftonbladet, the second major Swedish tabloid run an article today on scientology and my case. That article is so good that I'll translate it and put it on the web. I will post the URL later. An advise to the CoS: It seems that the OTs and NOTs WILL be widely available to the public, either you sue me or not, either you kill me or not either whatever or not. You got yourselves into a no-win game and it's now rendering you what you deserve. You have never before taken any advise from me, although all advise I've given you proved to be sound afterwards. Try now this one: drop all cases, retreat to a silent discreet existence, let all this be forgotten, change name and organization and start all over again in a few years. If you don't, you'll blow yourselves to smithereens within short time. Friendly advise this is, nothing more. Z --- oracle@everywhere: The ephemeral source of the eternal truth...